# Google can now search for a person's "Bacon Number"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 13, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615 "2012-09-13T18:13:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/41 "2012-09-14T03:56:30Z")

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> [@Rhiannon8404](#):
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> If you have to have worked directly with Kevin Bacon, wouldn’t everyone’s Bacon number always be 1? There would be no degrees of separation and thus, no number but one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My phrasing was bad. You will have to have worked directly with someone who has worked directly with someone who has worked directly…etc…with Kevin Bacon.

Or, the more strict rule, as per **bienville** , that you have to draw connections through movies you’ve acted in.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/42 "2012-09-14T07:18:25Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> I can remember first hearing about the Bacon Number in 1995 or so, when according to [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) he had been in about 30 movies. Wiki confirms that the Bacon Number game started in 1994. He has now been in 74 titles. I know it’s in good fun and all, but I think it’s high time someone came up a new actor/actress to structure this game around. It’s no fun anymore. ☹

Let’s do the Daniel Day-Lewis number. He’s only been an actor in like… 7 movies?

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/43 "2012-09-14T08:20:42Z")

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Kevin Bacon’s number is zero.

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The highest I was able to come up with for an actual actor in an actual movie was Augustus Philips, who played Dr. Frankenstein in Thomas Edison’s Frankenstein. His Bacon number is 4. I was disappointed that the cast of Freaks have Bacon numbers no higher than 3 (thanks to Wallace Ford).

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/45 "2012-09-14T12:03:47Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> There are a few high ones. William Rufus Shafter has a Bacon number of 7 according to Google.

“President McKinley Inauguration Footage”? That seems like cheating to me.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/46 "2012-09-14T12:16:02Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> As I understand the rules, your Bacon number must be traced through _films_ no T.V. steps allowed

Well, phooey! I had a BN of 2 before I learned that. ☹

I was an extra on CSI:NY with Gary Sinise, who was in Apollo 13 with Kevin Bacon.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/47 "2012-09-14T12:35:09Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Let’s do the Daniel Day-Lewis number. He’s only been an actor in like… 7 movies?

He’s just a 2: “Daniel Day-Lewis and Bruce McGill appeared in _Lincoln_.  
Bruce McGill and Kevin Bacon appeared in _National Lampoon’s Animal House._”

He may have only made a handful of movies, but several of those movies featured huge casts of well-known, prolific actors.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/48 "2012-09-14T12:39:55Z")

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Marat Safin has a bacon number. 6 I think.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/49 "2012-09-14T12:45:19Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> James Dean scores a three. I used to know a bunch of fours from the old days. Oracle of Bacon was one of the first things I did online.

The internet hipster part of me has spent the last day or so screaming about how I’ve been using the Oracle of Bacon for YEARS AND HOW DARE GOOGLE.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/50 "2012-09-14T13:33:55Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Marat Safin has a bacon number. 6 I think.

Marat Safin’s Bacon number is 5

I tried to backtrack from that to get a larger number but Google isn’t recognizing the Bacon Number of people like Tracy Austin or Nick Bollettieri or Igor Andreev even though they’re in IMDB

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/51 "2012-09-14T14:16:50Z")

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> [@Reeses\_Monkey](#):
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> Well, phooey! I had a BN of 2 before I learned that. ☹
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> I was an extra on CSI:NY with Gary Sinise, who was in Apollo 13 with Kevin Bacon.

The trouble is that if you allow TV, then you can connect anyone who has appeared on Jeopardy!, celebrity or otherwise, through Alex Trebek to Marcia Gay Harden in Spy Hard to Kevin Bacon in Mystic River for a Bacon Number of 3. Trivializes the game, really.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/52 "2012-09-14T14:19:44Z")

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My Bacon number is 4, although you have to count a student film that’s not on IMDb (or YouTube) and has been seen by maybe a few hundred people, tops.

I think everyone should be given an honorary Erdős number of 100 for helping their kid with their math homework.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/53 "2012-09-14T15:00:10Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> James Dean scores a three. I used to know a bunch of fours from the old days. Oracle of Bacon was one of the first things I did online.

Interestingly, porn star James Deen also has a Bacon number of 3, as do Ginger Lynn and Justine Joli. Porn star Jesse Jane is a 2. Would not be at all surprised to discover there are a few porny 1s out there.

Ana Kasparian of The Young Turks, Alyona Minkovsky of Huffington Post Live (formerly Russia Television) and Lee Newton on SourceFed do not have Bacon numbers. Felicia Day is a 2. So you gotta go to the Web to have celebrities without bacon numbers.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/54 "2012-09-14T15:01:28Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> I can remember first hearing about the Bacon Number in 1995 or so, when according to [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) he had been in about 30 movies. Wiki confirms that the Bacon Number game started in 1994. He has now been in 74 titles. I know it’s in good fun and all, but I think it’s high time someone came up a new actor/actress to structure this game around. It’s no fun anymore. ☹

You can thank Bernie Madoff for that. Seems Bacon had built up a nice pile and had gotten very picky about which movies he appeared in, but he invested all his money with Madoff, and of course, lost it. So back to work for Kevin.

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I have no Erdos number or Bacon number, but I can claim a Sabbath number! 🙂 I was able to trace it as a 7, but I might be able to figure it closer. If you count “opening for” as well as “playing with” it’s a 2.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/56 "2012-09-14T15:22:31Z")

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Oh, Justine Joli left a comment on my blog, so I have a Bacon number of four, unless you’re really strict about (i.e., pay any attention to) the rules of the game. Plus, she didn’t sign the comment so it MAY not have been her. But OTHER THAN THAT, I have a Bacon number of four, for sure, through Justine Joli!

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/57 "2012-09-14T16:21:35Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> At the top of the search page, is it not displaying the Bacon Number results?

Checking today at work, no it is not showing up. I just looked at  
“bacon number johnny depp”  
“bacon number wil wheaton”  
“bacon number kevin bacon”

and none showed the bacon number result at the top of the search page.

I was thinking the porn stars might have had a link through Traci Lords, since she went mainstream, but couldn’t find a shared movie with her and Kevin. However, a few porn stars have played themselves in mainstream movies, so they’re all probably linked through one actor/actress in one role.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-can-now-search-for-a-persons-bacon-number/634615/58 "2012-09-14T16:23:32Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Checking today at work, no it is not showing up. I just looked at  
> …  
> “bacon number kevin bacon”

[works for me.](https://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=bacon+number+kevin+bacon&oq=bacon+number+kevin+bacon&gs_l=hp.3..0i3.990.990.0.3045.1.1.0.0.0.0.103.103.0j1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1j2.vWfKksZ8OM4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=ba9a35dc39c5822a&biw=1024&bih=748)

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> So you gotta go to the Web to have celebrities without bacon numbers.

Not true. There are a few totally isolated regions within the Baconverse. If you look up [Manos: The Hands of Fate](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060666/) on IMDb, and plug any of those names into the Oracle. the Bacon Number will be infinite. Under strict rules of bacon, no one in that movie can traverse a path to the central node.

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Johnny Weismueller has a Bacon Number of 3.

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