# Google DNS rocks! **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 5, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111 "2009-12-05T18:33:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/1 "2009-12-05T18:33:33Z")
Has anyone started using Google’s DNS? It about tripled my pageloading speed. Of course I was stuck with awful bellsouth DSL DNS service. That is I hadn’t successfully avoided their attempts at forcing their DNS on my router. But I have switched to Google’s (8.8.8.8) and it is great! Anyone else using this service? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/2 "2009-12-05T18:33:59Z")
> [@rbroome](#): > > Has anyone started using Google’s DNS? It about tripled my pageloading speed. Of course I was stuck with awful bellsouth DSL DNS service. That is I hadn’t successfully avoided their attempts at forcing their DNS on my router. But I have switched to Google’s (8.8.8.8) and it is great! Anyone else using this service? How does one use it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/3 "2009-12-05T18:42:31Z")
[Introducing Google Public DNS](http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/introducing-google-public-dns.html) (Google Blog) [Google Public DNS](http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/) product page. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/4 "2009-12-05T18:47:45Z")
I’m trying it on one computer. It’s hard to tell if it is actually faster and will continue to be so over time and many URLs. It does feel faster, but it could be due to expectations. Strange that the Google how-to instruction pages only mention Vista and non-Windows OSes, not XP. Or maybe I overlooked it? ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Dubinsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Alex\_Dubinsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_Dubinsky)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/5 "2009-12-05T18:51:06Z")
I have trouble seeing how a faraway server will be faster than the DNS server internal to my ISP’s network. Also, doesn’t DNS get cached locally and isn’t called all that often? That’s a nice IP, though. I’ll use it to ping against or if the DNS server goes down. Anyone else want to share whether it really improves performance? Btw, that Google blog post is funny. “Our research has shown that speed matters to Internet users” Is that why you only make AJAX software? ---
**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/6 "2009-12-05T18:52:21Z")
Great. More docs for Google to gather on its users. I’ll stay with my self-administered DNS, thank you very much. Hell, OpenDNS safer. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/7 "2009-12-05T19:01:23Z")
> [@IAmNotSpartacus](#): > > Hell, OpenDNS safer. I use OpenDNS. Seems to work great. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_Dubinsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dbc845/32.png) [@Alex\_Dubinsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_Dubinsky)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/8 "2009-12-05T19:20:48Z")
> [@IAmNotSpartacus](#): > > Great. More docs for Google to gather on its users. Wow. I didn’t even realize this. Now they know ALL the websites you visit. Wonderful. Google: Don’t be not evil. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/9 "2009-12-05T19:24:58Z")
I use OpenDNS too, it’s always faster than my ISP’s nameservers, but so are smoke signals. This is nice to know though, and it seems as fast as any nameserver I’ve used. They’re easy to remember and it will probably never go offline so I put them in my resolv.conf to use if needed. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/10 "2009-12-05T19:25:22Z")
The only one I’ve tried is the one for Firefox, and this is what I’ve found: My home bandwidth is around 12mbps, but most sites have a maximum of 250kbps or 500 kbps. Most sites will load pages in order, top to bottom. The top part of the site is usually a banner ad, which takes the longest to respond (not necessarily download, although this is the case for animated banners.) So, when a page is loading, there is an illusion that it is slow because parts of it are loading at different times, although each part is loading at the maximum speed the source can do (250-500kbps.) The speedup software I used simply waited for everything to download first, then showed the page, making it appear as though it loaded instantly. Looking at this, it appears that it may have the same effect. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/11 "2009-12-05T19:28:51Z")
That’s pretty cool, but it can’t top Google Breathe. I haven’t respirated on my own in weeks! ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/12 "2009-12-05T19:43:55Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > That’s pretty cool, but it can’t top Google Breathe. I haven’t respirated on my own in weeks! Sounds like you’re ready to upgrade to Google Bowel. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/13 "2009-12-05T20:38:05Z")
Read this: > **[Google Gets Into The DNS Business. Here's What That Means | TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2009/12/03/google-dns-opendns/)** > > Google just announced Google Public DNS, a new service that lets consumers use Google as their DNS service provider. The benefits to users are a theoretically faster and more stable browsing experience, and some additional security against malware... This was most people’s (and mine) initial assumption: > [@](#): > > The benefits to users are a theoretically faster and more stable browsing experience, and some additional security against malware type sites. The benefit to Google – tons more data, and some potential revenue. > > The service competes directly with Sequoia and Greylock backed OpenDNS, a four year old service that has had tremendous usage and revenue growth. OpenDNS is resolving 20 billion DNS queries per day, and has 15 million end users. Here’s an overview of how OpenDNS works. > > In 2008 OpenDNS was making $20,000/day in revenue when they were resolving just 7 billion daily queries. > > Here’s how money is made – when users enter a URL that can’t resolve, the service puts up its own landing page with search results and advertisements. And companies are very willing to pay for DNS services like these to stop employees from hitting malware sites (they are simply blocked), or other sites (porn, Facebook, etc.). But an update to that article clarifies Google’s intent: > [@](#): > > …goals are speed, security and validty of DNS responses. They will follow DNS protocols to the letter, he says, which means no blocking, hijacking or filtering of queries at all. It’s all about speed. > > … > > On privacy: Here’s the policy that says what’s being collected and how long they’re keeping it. Collected data includes IP address (up to 48 hours, to detect malicious behavior against the service), ISP information and geographic information (2 weeks each). The data is not correlated with your Google account in any way, they say. And here’s the response from OpenDNS: [http://blog.opendns.com/2009/12/03/opendns-google-dns/](http://blog.opendns.com/2009/12/03/opendns-google-dns/) > [@](#): > > Third, Google claims that this service is better because it has no ads or redirection. But you have to remember they are also the largest advertising and redirection company on the Internet. To think that Google’s DNS service is for the benefit of the Internet would be naive. They know there is value in controlling more of your Internet experience and I would expect them to explore that fully. And of course, we always have protected user privacy and have never sold our DNS data. Here’s a link to our privacy policy. > > Fifth, it’s not clear that Internet users really want Google to keep control over so much more of their Internet experience than they do already — from Chrome OS at the bottom of the stack to Google Search at the top, it is becoming an end-to-end infrastructure all run by Google, the largest advertising company in the world. I prefer a heterogeneous Internet with lots of parties collaborating to make this thing work as opposed to an Internet run by one big company. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/14 "2009-12-06T02:15:56Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > Sounds like you’re ready to upgrade to Google Bowel. Ah, you mean Poogle? Been there, done that. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/15 "2009-12-06T09:36:52Z")
But did you get the paperwork? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/16 "2009-12-06T12:36:55Z")
I tried Google Wipe, but it replaced all the sensitive data on my hard drive with context ads. NB: I normally wouldn’t defile a GQ thread with third-rate vaudevillian cheese, but I figured there’s a better than average chance this thread will end up in MPSIMS, if it doesn’t die on its own. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/17 "2009-12-06T12:47:43Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Ah, you mean Poogle? Been there, done that. I use Apple’s iPoo. ---
**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/18 "2009-12-06T14:57:39Z")
I think I can infer from the comments that others aren’t as impressed as I was. Sigh. I like it because it is definitely faster than my previous configuration which used the Bellsouth DNS service. Just about anything would be faster than they are. I tried OpenDNS but had unexpected trouble with it. I was using my DHCP server to hand out the OpenDNS addresses and I suspect Baby Bell got jealous. Anyway, I had trouble until I gave up and went back to defaulting to my ISP. With Google, I switched off my DHCP and have everything manual. Pages load faster than I have ever seen them load. As for user data collection-uh how is OpenDNS less safe than Google? How is any DNS server less safe than any other. Google at least has a reputation to uphold-and lots of other revenue to do that with. Your local ISP or OpenDNS have less incentive to not make money off your queries. But I agree that any service can compromise one’s privacy. Google included. But as far as I can see, Google has less incentive than most. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/19 "2009-12-06T15:37:29Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > I use Apple’s iPoo. I hear there’s a nap for that. ---
**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111/20 "2009-12-06T16:18:29Z")
> [@rbroome](#): > > But as far as I can see, Google has less incentive than most. Google’s entire business model revolves around compiling, analyzing and utilizing the operating habits of its users. What on God’s green earth leads you to believe they have less incentive than most? Because their unofficial motto is “Don’t Be Evil?” 😕 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-dns-rocks/520111.md?page=2)