# Google forcing 2 step verification starting Oct 28

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 23, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674 "2022-10-23T22:11:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/1 "2022-10-23T22:11:02Z")

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I don’t sign into Google. I turn on my phone and it signs in for me. I haven’t manually signed into Google since I replaced my phone last year.

What will 2 step verification mean for phone users?

Are we going to be harassed everytime we power off and on our phone? I turn off my phone at bedtime and power on in the morning.

Anyone using 2 step verification with Google? How will it impact phone users?

**From email**

Soon you’ll sign in with 2-Step Verification

After you enter your password, you’ll complete a second step on your phone. Keep your phone nearby when you sign in.

Soon after October 28, 2-Step Verification will be turned on automatically. You can turn it on now if you want — your account is all set.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/2 "2022-10-23T22:20:32Z")

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I have two Android devices, MFA on all accounts. I do not require a second factor to sign in to the devices.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/3 "2022-10-23T22:23:24Z")

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I wonder if this is for pc users?

I haven’t turned on my pc in 2022. I never logged into Google. I did searches in FireFox without logging in.

I check Gmail on my phone. I don’t have it configured on the pc.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/4 "2022-10-23T22:48:28Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> I do not require a second factor to sign in to the devices.

Not now, you don’t, but google sent out emails that said…

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Soon after October 28, **2-Step Verification will be turned on automatically.**

My bold.

I don’t know what this will mean. I hope someone chimes in who does know.

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**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/5 "2022-10-23T22:50:28Z")

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I think it means that if you sign into google from your PC, then it’ll send a code to your phone that you need to enter in the 2nd step to prove it’s you. My email from them said I’ll have to keep my phone handy when using the PC.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/6 "2022-10-23T22:54:43Z")

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I currently have 2-step verification active, but it only ever comes up for new devices/locations. Does this change apply to me?

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/7 "2022-10-23T22:55:18Z")

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I’m about to find out as I have two Gmail accounts.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/8 "2022-10-23T22:56:56Z")

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There had better be an option for those of us without smartphones.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/9 "2022-10-23T22:57:43Z")

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There usually is. I’ll try to report back what I discover.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/10 "2022-10-23T22:59:50Z")

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Turn it off.

[Google Help - Turn off 2-Step Verification](https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1064203?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid)

StG

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/11 "2022-10-23T23:00:10Z")

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I recently had a creepy moment from work. I got a notification that I had to turn on password on my phone lock screen.

This is my personal phone and its never been signed into the Network at work. They have wireless but I’ve never logged into it. I use cellular connection at work.

All I do is setup Gmail at work.

It’s extremely creepy to find out that tiny email connection to work lets them snoop on my phone.

I’m even more pissed that Google facilitates this loss of privacy.

I don’t have any choice. I need to check work email. I turned on a password on my lock screen.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/12 "2022-10-23T23:00:28Z")

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As I understand it, Google considers recognizing the device as one you’ve used before to be a factor. So it usually won’t matter (aside from when you get a new device).

> [@Bookkeeper](#):
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> There had better be an option for those of us without smartphones.

You need to be able to receive texts. And even that might not actually be necessary: They probably have an option to give you a voice call with a robot reading off digits.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/13 "2022-10-23T23:02:37Z")

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The only email I got was about 2-step verification on Google Play.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/14 "2022-10-23T23:09:26Z")

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> [@Bookkeeper](#):
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> There had better be an option for those of us without smartphones.

I’ve used it with a landline for years.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/15 "2022-10-23T23:42:12Z")

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I use it. When I sign in anywhere except my phone, if I don’t have cookies enabled, I have to open Gmail on my phone and wait a second or two for a “Is this you? Yes/No” page to automatically come up and I just press “yes.” It’s definitely annoying, but it’s less annoying than endless captchas or “go to this website and type in this code.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/16 "2022-10-24T00:17:37Z")

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> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#):
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> I think it means that if you sign into google from your PC, then it’ll send a code to your phone that you need to enter in the 2nd step to prove it’s you.

Right. But **every time** , or just after you’ve cleared cookies (or logged out, which I never do)?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/17 "2022-10-24T00:49:45Z")

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I recently lost a Google account I have had for multiple years. I had only accessed it from phones and tablets for around three years. Never had a problem adding a new device to it in the past. But a few weeks ago my then-current phone suddenly died. Bought a new one, tried to connect it to the same account, it demanded authorization using a phone number that I hadn’t used in years (and hadn’t thought to update) or signing in with another device. I tried two older retired phones that were already on the account, but got the same demand.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/18 "2022-10-24T01:09:04Z")

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What I’m wondering is what do the folks who don’t have phones with texting capability do? Yes, I know it’s not _likely_ in this day and age that you’ll have a computer but not a smart phone, but it could happen.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/19 "2022-10-24T01:09:47Z")

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Oh, carp.

I have 4 …

ETA:

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I don’t have any choice. I need to check work email. I turned on a password on my lock screen.

I’ve told my work that unless they’re paying for the phone, I will not install any work apps or access anything work related from _my phone_. The holding company that owns us insists that if you use a personal device to do work and you leave the company, they get to reset it to factory settings.

Uhm. That’s a hard no from me. You want me connected that much, you wanna erase it, you get to buy it and pay for the subscription.

(This is not likely to happen. I don’t have a job that requires someone be able to contact me 24x7. I wouldn’t _accept_ a job like that, either.)

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-forcing-2-step-verification-starting-oct-28/973674/20 "2022-10-24T01:25:41Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> All I do is setup Gmail at work.

If you add your work Google account to a phone (with Gmail for example) your company can require certain access to your phone: password unlock, 6-digit PIN, remote wipe, etc.

It’s not a Google-specific feature. Any phone that supports enterprise email does this.

Newer versions of Android let you create a work profile that is separate from your normal profile. This limits your work’s access to the rest of your phone.

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