# Google return amusement :The Who

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** ai\
**Created:** [October 22, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051 "2024-10-22T04:32:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/81 "2024-10-26T12:34:53Z")

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Loudest I ever heard was the Ramones in a C-U bar in 77-78. My ears were still ringing a couple of days later.

The discussion of modern concert prices makes me happy I’m a fan of bluegrass and oldtime. I get to see my favorite performers like Bruce Molsky, Special Consensus, Natalie Haas, Jake Blount, etc., in intimate settings for $20-30!

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/82 "2024-10-26T14:32:32Z")

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Since the ticket price discussion has continued, I’ll add that I had gifted concert tickets to a nephew of mine last month and happened to mention that concert tickets used to cost about the same as a vinyl LP. I knew that he believed me, but it was a huge conceptual challenge for him when he basically thinks of “unlimited” streaming as his main method of music consumption.

(“Yes, Uncle ZonexandScout could go to the record store with a $5 bill and come home with either a copy of _Who’s Next_ or a ticket to see The Who perform live…plus change.”)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/83 "2024-10-26T15:04:32Z")

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Here are some ticket prices for the early-to-mid 80s. They’re kind of all over the place, and higher than I remember.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/oLPpl4m.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/oLPpl4m.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/84 "2024-10-26T15:57:49Z")

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Nice. Some pretty good prices there, regardless. The multiplier is about 3.5-3.7 for the early 80s tickets, and then closer to 3 for the mid-80s, just to get a sense of the price. Like the Stones ticket would be about $60 in today’s money. I imagine they’d be closer to starting at $90 these days.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/85 "2024-10-26T16:13:35Z")

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Minimum wage in Texas was $1.40 at the time, which I was making more than working at a grocery store, but not wildly higher. Which was all fine, but I rarely bought concert t-shirts.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/86 "2024-10-27T10:06:08Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Well, all the band members were over the top, except for John Entwhistle. I saw The Who in concert a few times, and while Daltrey was spinning his microphone like a western lasso, Townshend was windmilling his guitar, and Moon was going crazy on drums (when he wasn’t blowing up hotel room toilets), Entwhistle just stood there, off to one side, playing his bass. He was easy to forget.

This reminds me of that live performance of A Quick One While He’s Away for that Rolling Stones thing in the 60s, where of course all the signature moves were on display. I just love it to so much I’ll take any excuse to post it:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RJv2-_--EY4/maxresdefault.jpg "The Who, Michael Lindsay-Hogg - A Quick One (While He's Away)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJv2-_--EY4)

Way before my time. I saw them in high school during the late 80s, though, and they were awesome. Pretty sure it was at Giants Stadium.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/87 "2024-10-27T19:22:27Z")

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You’re all forgiven. Classic example of why The Who was the most engaging live band.

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/88 "2024-10-27T20:27:10Z")

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The names Townshend and Entwistle are funny, because people are always leaving out the “h” in the former and sticking it into the latter. Even on album jackets and record labels. John even called an album “Whistle Rymes” to make fun of it.

Kids, please do stop capitalizing the definite article when writing band names (except at the start of a sentence). “I like the Who.” Not so hard. I don’t like tripping over those clunky capital "T"s I keep seeing here. Surely they taught you correct practice in third grade.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/89 "2024-10-27T20:37:43Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Surely they taught you correct practice in third grade.

I never learned about spelling band names in school. It wasn’t exactly Rock’n’Roll High School.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/90 "2024-10-27T20:43:04Z")

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I went to The Ohio State University, so I’m still a little confused on the topic. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/91 "2024-10-27T20:51:27Z")

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Here’s the correct way to do it: “I went to State”.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/92 "2024-10-27T21:26:13Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Kids, please do stop capitalizing the definite article when writing band names (except at the start of a sentence).

A quick glance at their album covers suggest the band\* itself has trouble deciding whether they are The Who or just Who.

\*Not to be confused with The Band, which seems to be completely comfortable with that name/stylization.

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/93 "2024-10-27T21:30:19Z")

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They don’t get to choose. I mean, sure, they can do it however they like in their websites and promotional materials, but just remember, a lot of musicians are only semi-literate.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/94 "2024-10-27T21:36:11Z")

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If the name of the band is _The Who_, which it is, the gets capitalised in exactly the same way you would capitalise _The Merchant of Venice_

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/95 "2024-10-27T21:41:43Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> A quick glance at their album covers suggest the band\* itself has trouble deciding whether they are The Who or just Who.
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> \*Not to be confused with The Band, which seems to be completely comfortable with that name/stylization.

Hell, I thought they were The Guess Who early on, and simply dropped the adjective in question a bit before they hit the big time. [like how The Cult sucessively dropped the words “Southern” and “Death” from their name 2 decades later]

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/96 "2024-10-27T22:07:01Z")

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> [@colinfred](#):
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> If the name of the band is _The Who_, which it is, the gets capitalised in exactly the same way you would capitalise _The Merchant of Venice_

Good question. The article is capitalized in titles, but not in names. “In 1964, the Rolling Stones released _The Rolling Stones No. 2._”

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/97 "2024-10-28T01:55:47Z")

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I saw the show in Chicago the week after this one:

> **[The Who concert disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster)**
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> The Who concert disaster was a crowd disaster that occurred on December 3, 1979, when English rock band the Who performed at Riverfront Coliseum (now known as Heritage Bank Center) in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, and a rush of concert-goers outside the Coliseum's entry doors resulted in the deaths of 11 people.
> The Who were in the midst of the United States leg of their 1979 world tour, which began in September with a total of seven dates split between the Capitol Theatre in Passaic, New J...

My memory is that it was the very next show, but google says otherwise.

Anyway, before the band came out, I was at my seat in the truly cavernous Chicago Amphitheater, when a huge hand descended on my shoulder from behind. I turned and saw a big frightening biker looking fellow (I was a skinny 17yo) who said, “you dropped your coat” and handed it to me. “Thanks!” I squeaked.

That week after Cincinnati, everyone was really darn polite in that crowd. It was never that way in the late 70s. You felt the difference. No pushing, everyone being careful not to mess up. Let’s not all die being assholes.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/98 "2024-10-29T02:01:20Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Good question. The article is capitalized in titles, but not in names.

I looked it up. The band name “The Who” [is a registered trademark](https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=88073263&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch) Two words, both capitalized…

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/99 "2024-10-29T02:12:42Z")

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And here’s how they chose the name. according to Pete’s best friend Richard Barnes:

> _“The first two names that I thought of were ‘the Group’ and ‘the Name.’ Pete came up with ‘The Hair.’ Another contender was ‘No-One,’ or ‘Ladies and Gentlemen, the next group is called “The Group.”’ But I finally thought ‘The Who’ worked best for many reasons. It made people think twice when they saw it and it worked well on posters because it was so short and therefore would print up so big…it narrowed down to a choice between either ‘The Who’ or ‘The Hair.’ Pete suggested ‘The Hair and The Who’ and seemed really keen on it, but it sounded too much like the name of a pub…The indecision was resolved by Roger who came around to the flat the next morning to pick Pete up…‘It’s The Who, innit?’ So that was that and a new name had been born.”_

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/100 "2024-10-29T02:16:27Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Kids, please do stop capitalizing the definite article when writing band names

Next you’re going to tell me it’s supposed to be “the the”.

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