# Google return amusement :The Who

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** ai\
**Created:** [October 22, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051 "2024-10-22T04:32:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/101 "2024-10-29T02:18:17Z")

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The usage of the capitalized definite article “the” on the band names is one of the worst pedantic stupid arguments on the straight dope.

If the name of the band is Who (no “the”) then you don’t say “I like the Who”, you say “I like Who”. And then everyone says “Who?” and you realize how stupid you sound.

Tell me, what do you do with The The?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/102 "2024-10-29T02:18:52Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Tell me, what do you do with The The?

Pssst. Just above you.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/103 "2024-10-29T02:19:48Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Pssst. Just above you.

That wasn’t there when I was typing!

🙂

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/104 "2024-10-29T03:01:35Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> If the name of the band is Who

The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/105 "2024-10-29T03:06:27Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> The usage of the capitalized definite article “the” on the band names is one of the worst pedantic stupid arguments on the straight dope.

Oh, come on. We’ve had much worse pedantic, stupid arguments. We’re barely going half speed (or is it half-speed?) here.

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**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/106 "2024-10-29T07:05:06Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> I looked it up. The band name “The Who” [is a registered trademark](https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=88073263&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch) Two words, both capitalized…

That’s nice but trademarks have nothing to do with how to write “the” mid-sentence, whether it’s a band or a football team or a magazine, all frequently named with that word at the head, and yes that word is part of their name which is irrelevant; the convention is what I (and style guides to written English) have said,.Conventions may evolve, but as of now the Band and the Who will just have to live with it.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/107 "2024-10-29T08:26:17Z")

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> [@Hatchie](#):
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> said,.Conventions may evolve, but as of now the Band and the Who will just have to live with it.

Nice dodge on The The. So how should The The be capitalized?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/108 "2024-10-29T10:36:20Z")

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Trick question: is it the Eagles, or The Eagles?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/109 "2024-10-29T12:21:38Z")

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A name is a name, and that’s how you write it. The rules of grammar don’t decide whether Leonardo is da Vinci or Da Vinci, or whether “The” is or isn’t a part of Ohio State University.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/110 "2024-10-29T14:11:50Z")

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Are we having this argument again?

You don’t say:  
the Pink Floyd  
the Led Zeppelin  
the King Crimson  
the Menudo  
the Blood, Sweat and Tears (whether the Oxford comma is there is open for debate 🙂 )

You do say:  
The Beatles  
The Rolling Stones  
The Eagles  
The Doors  
The Who  
The The

I am agnostic if you can or should say The Talking Heads.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/111 "2024-10-29T14:28:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I am agnostic if you can or should say The Talking Heads.

Well, they made it crystal clear with the title of their live album.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/112 "2024-10-29T14:33:07Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Well, they made it crystal clear with the title of their live album.

eh, what do they know? 🙂  
This, on the other hand:  
[![](https://cdn.europosters.eu/image/750/posters/the-who-maximum-r-b-i14148.jpg) ](https://cdn.europosters.eu/image/750/posters/the-who-maximum-r-b-i14148.jpg)

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/113 "2024-10-29T14:40:37Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> This, on the other hand:

You beat me to posting this iconic poster. It’s hanging on my living room wall. 😉

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/114 "2024-10-29T15:01:31Z")

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I wore this t-shirt (without the specific place/date) in high school rather a lot. Great picture.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/115 "2024-10-29T15:24:41Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Trick question: is it the Eagles, or The Eagles?

It’s just Eagles. No “the”.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/116 "2024-10-29T15:31:37Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> It’s just Eagles. No “the”.

The Dude says otherwise: “I hate the fucking Eagles, man.”

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/117 "2024-10-29T15:52:07Z")

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I mean, the (or The) Dude’s not dumb, he knows if he said “I hate fucking Eagles” they’d all think he was unAmerican.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/118 "2024-10-29T15:58:24Z")

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Clearly, “the The The.”

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/119 "2024-10-29T16:04:21Z")

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aka “Die Bart Die” in German.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-return-amusement-the-who/1009051/120 "2024-10-29T16:14:07Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> if he said “I hate fucking Eagles” they’d all think he was unAmerican.

Or into bestiality. “Thiose buggars are hard to hold on to. And watch out for the talons.”

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