# Google Search Mod Orgy!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537 "2003-01-09T16:01:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/261 "2003-01-10T05:44:48Z")

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😉

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**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/262 "2003-01-10T05:53:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> Have you perhaps noticed that regardless of how many people post with “an assist,” Arnold still EVERY TIME posts his little bit, complete with the link and some witty humor?

That is false. Here’s an [example](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=142801). In my experience, when the OP forgets the link and someone else provides it, **Arnold** still usually posts his spiel, but rather than duplicating the link he mentions the poster who provided it. But obviously that isn’t universal, since **Arnold** sometimes doesn’t post at all.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/263 "2003-01-10T06:12:32Z")

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> Amend that to, “by my completely-in-my-head-and-not-actually-done count.”

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/264 "2003-01-10T06:26:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \*  
> \*\*[Overgeneralising again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=153371) **Joe\_Cool**? \*\*

I wasn’t overgeneralizing. Just generalizing. In order to make a point: Junior modding isn’t appreciated. It really sucks to see half of a thread ruined by people racing to be the first one to provide a link. Let the mods do their jobs.

Here’s my simple guidline:

If you disagree with what I’ve written, counter it.  
If you think I’m full of shit, say so.  
If you think I have no business posting what I’ve chosen to post and where I’ve chosen to post it, and you’re not a staff member, then keep it to your f-ing self. Your input is not welcome.

When I need to be told to behave myself, post someplace else, not post what I’m posting at all, etc, the moderators and administrators are the ones to do it. They alone have the authority and the responsibility, not to mention the right to make that judgment. And believe me – they are not shy about telling me to shut the hell up. They do not by any means need your help.

That goes for everyone, not just DDG. She’s just the most visible and predictable one, and does it the most often.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/265 "2003-01-10T06:35:56Z")

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> - The idea that the populace here, no doubt made up of hundreds of people who know the Internet forwards, backwards and sideways, don’t know how to do a Google search is amusing.

I suppose that _if_ such an assertion had been made, it _would_ have been amusing.

However, in **GQ** , especially, there are a great many questions posted by people with single-digit post counts (who may be internet experts or may have just learned to turn the computer on last weekend), there are many people who never learn the _effective_ use of search engines, and, even among people who are familiar with search engines, some are less adept than others.

I have no idea whether **DDG** is the best Google-searching poster on this MB–she is certainly the most _persistent_.

The objections that you and **Maeglin** have raised as to the _use_ to which one puts those searches may be argued.  
However, that is a different issue from claiming that few people know how to use Google (a claim that has not been made) or that only **DDG** knows how to use Google (another claim that has not been made) or that there are some people who post here who are less proficient than **DDG** in using Google (a claim that should be self-evident when one considers the broad sweep of posters who are liable to stumble into the SDMB).

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/266 "2003-01-10T06:37:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cisco \*  
> \*\*Oh, and Homebrew - What are you, The Patron Saint of Calling People Out? Who has Polycarp ever pissed off? \*\*

I was just pointing out that not even he is exempt from irritating someone. He has been Pitted. The response to that thread would probably dissuade anyone else - even someone with a legitimate complaint - from ever doing it again. (Which is not to imply that I want to Pit him.)

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/267 "2003-01-10T06:38:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \*  
> \*\*If you think I have no business posting what I’ve chosen to post and where I’ve chosen to post it, and you’re not a staff member, then keep it to your f-ing self. Your input is not welcome.
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> . . \*\*

Do you see the irony? You’re telling others not to post their opinions about what they think _you_ ought to be doing.

It comes down to this:

Not everybody is going to like everybody else. Some folks’ style will bug some folks, and not others. If you run around trying to please everyone or not offend everyone, you’ll drive yourself nuts.

If you post a message on a public message board you cannot control who and how others will respond.

Yes, the mods are in charge of enforcing the rules. But that certainly doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t allowed to post our own opinion. As a matter of fact, isn’t that exactly what you did with the Satan Thread?

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/268 "2003-01-10T06:45:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> \*\*Thank you, Tom, as always you make much sense. I booted Jar’s little heinie because it wasn’t fair for her to Pit me for nothing. \*\*

Wasn’t fair?

_scratches head_

_Wasn’t fair?_

Are you 6 years old? Are you perhaps devoid of adult responsibility? Let me share a secret of the universe with you…

_psst_

LIFE ISN’T FUCKING FAIR!

Deal with it, ya big whiner.

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/269 "2003-01-10T06:46:50Z")

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Nope. What I did on the Satan thread was a direct request to the staff for a reconsideration of a prior decision, **IN THE FORUM WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS THE PROPER ONE FOR DISCUSSING STAFF DECISIONS** , with a call for comments and discussion from the board at large.

Tell me again how that is the same thing, ok?

And no, if you read the two sentences directly above the one you quoted, you’ll see that I’m not telling people to post their opinions. I invite people to argue with me, agree with me, tell me I’m full of shit, whatever – as long as it’s appropriate. But don’t tell me something that only a moderator or administrator has the authority to say.

We have the right to question the rules in the proper forum, but we do not have the right to enforce those rules on other posters.

Get it?

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**Author:** ![evilbeth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/evilbeth/32/2268_2.png) [@evilbeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilbeth)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/270 "2003-01-10T06:47:41Z")

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\*Originally posted by **Reeder** :

Must be a full moon.\*

Had you only [Googled](http://www.almanac.com/details/moondays.html)…

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/271 "2003-01-10T06:48:04Z")

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> If you think I have no business posting what I’ve chosen to post and where I’ve chosen to post it, and you’re not a staff member, then keep it to your f-ing self. Your input is not welcome.

Perhaps.

I can see how an order from one poster to another that they are in the “wrong” Forum can be insulting. (And, certainly, if both posters are veterans, I can see the rancor this would cause.)

However, The mods can only be on for a certain number of hours each day. I don’t see that mentioning to a newbie that their thread might be better served in another Forum is insulting. I have certainly seen enouh irate Pit threads by newbies claiming that they were being picked on when their threads were moved. A short, non-confrontational comment by a veteran that they might expect to see their thread move seems only polite, given that (depending on the time of the post) it may be several hours before a Moderator stumbles on the thread and decides to take action.

I am not claiming that “instructions” from non-Moderators cannot be irritating. I am pointing out that your statement that I quoted is too absolute and sets guidelines that are too rigid for all cases.  
(Or were you just playing junior mod? 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/272 "2003-01-10T06:51:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by evilbeth \*  
> \*\*\*Originally posted by **Reeder** :
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> Must be a full moon.\*
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> Had you only [Googled](http://www.almanac.com/details/moondays.html)… \*\*

You funny woman.

😃

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/273 "2003-01-10T06:53:47Z")

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**Joe** can you explain to me, how a poster posting **their opinion** about “I think this is the wrong forum/against the rules” etc. is **enforcing** the rules??

tough to do since the poster isn’t a mod.

You’re teling folks not to post certain replies to you.

how on earth is that **any** different from the other people saying “I think your posting in the wrong forum”?

You’re quite able to ignore such postings, should you choose. as are they.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/274 "2003-01-10T07:02:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wring \*  
> \*\ ***Joe** can you explain to me, how a poster posting **their opinion** about “I think this is the wrong forum/against the rules” etc. is **enforcing** the rules??
> 
> tough to do since the poster isn’t a mod.
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> You’re teling folks not to post certain replies to you.
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> how on earth is that **any** different from the other people saying “I think your posting in the wrong forum”?
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> You’re quite able to ignore such postings, should you choose. as are they. \*\*

Joe exists in a universe where the rules are elastic for him and solid for everyone else.

He can tirade at others, but when it is returned in kind, he behaves as if 40 pounds was just added to his yoke, making his hair shirt more itchy, increasing his wedgie, making that pebble in his shoe more annoying than that time when he got on a stack of forty mattresses only to feel the pea that was on the 39th mattress.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/275 "2003-01-10T07:09:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hastur \*  
> **LIFE ISN’T FUCKING FAIR!**

[William Goldman]  
It’s just fairer than death, that’s all.  
[/William Goldman]

😉

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**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/276 "2003-01-10T07:15:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> **…like I already told Jarbaby, I don’t start out the day doing vanity searches for my name, so I don’t always get back to threads I was in yesterday…**

And yet you manage to find this thread before anybody else does, and FOUR MINUTES after the OP. Sure, you don’t do vanity searches. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/277 "2003-01-10T07:20:59Z")

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**Joe** for cryin’ out loud, **jar** picked the thread title specifically to get **DDG’s** attention.

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/278 "2003-01-10T08:04:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wring \*  
> \*\ ***Joe** for cryin’ out loud, **jar** picked the thread title specifically to get **DDG’s** attention. \*\*

How could **DDG** resist a thread with **Google** in the title. 😃 Sorry couldn’t resist that one

Of course it should have gotten her attention, she’s been pitted, WTF???

I know some of you are in love with **DDG** and that’s all good, but acknowledge the fact that she’s doing some fucked up shit, that not only got on **jarbaby** ’s, but other people as well. I have experienced her meglomaniacal SDMB behavior, and others have as well.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/279 "2003-01-10T08:15:54Z")

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**Phil** - **JOe** suggested that since she responded quickly to this thread, she **had** to have done a vanity search. I pointed out that the thread title itself was specifically designed to get her attention, that it wasn’t necessarily true.

“fucked up shit”?

No, I disagree.

“does stuff other people don’t like” absolutely. But that, of course is true of absolutely everybody here. Everyone doesn’t like somebody. who doesn’t like somebody else.

“doesn’t like” would involve stuff like “I think you talk about sex too much” “flirt too much” “rely on Google”.

Fucked up shit in my book would be stuff like personal insults outside of the pit. deliberately baiting people. following them from thread to thread. lying about them.

that’d be ‘fucked up shit’.

You don’t like her. GOt it.  
and I think she did too.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/280 "2003-01-10T08:25:29Z")

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I’d just like to take this moment to say “holy shit!”

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