# Google Search Mod Orgy!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537 "2003-01-09T16:01:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/281 "2003-01-10T08:30:35Z")

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I believe, though she didn’t link this one, this is another of the threads that inspired **Scottis’** thread, **stoid**

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/282 "2003-01-10T09:10:51Z")

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_GASP_

I actually read this whole thread!

[sub]that is all[/sub]

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/283 "2003-01-10T10:27:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cisco \*  
> \*\*There’s a people pages besides [this one](http://www.geocities.com/sdpeoplepages/) that hasn’t been updated since before BBJ was a member?!! \*\*

Well, there is the [teeming millions homepage](http://teemingmillions.com), which has been around since 1997 and has [pics of dopers](http://fathom.org/teemingmillions/people/) (along with profiles that they can edit themselves) and the TM [Photo-Rama](http://fff.fathom.org/photorama/index.cgi?theme=TeemingMillions).

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/284 "2003-01-10T10:35:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Xploder \*  
> \*\*Well then, as I stated before, those induhviduals need some serious help. \*\*

Everyone on the board is a real person, living on planet Earth (or so can usually be assumed). We are all communicating with each other. How is this not the real world? It isn’t the _whole_ real world, but it is a part of it. It isn’t some fake alternate universe where nothing matters and nothing is real. Ask the various married couples who met on the board if they think it was real.

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/285 "2003-01-10T10:57:32Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by wring \*  
\*\*  
“fucked up shit”?

No, I disagree.  
\*\*

[quote]  
There’s nothing to disagree with, it’s poetic license.

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> \*\*  
> You don’t like her. GOt it.  
> and I think she did too. \*\*

Whether I like her or not, is irrelevant, I don’t know her, I just know of what she does here, her online persona on the SDMB. My comments pertain to her behavior here, no what she does at the supermarket, the mall, the movies or driving down the highway, so let’s keep all of this in context. This is a message board even though there are those here that have met, married, whatever.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/286 "2003-01-10T11:29:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> \*\*  
> And I said, “Cite?” That means, prove that I often “go beyond factual answers”. Prove that I often “try to get into the heads of mods and admins.” Prove that I am “often wrong”. Prove that I “have had to be corrected”.
> 
> Prove it. Or else quit raggin’ on my ass about “pretending to be a staff member”. \*\*

As unlovely as this trainwreck is, I still harbor faint hope that appeals to reason might help. The assertion that this issue is new, or limited to **Coldfire** is patently false. In point of fact a warning was issued on precisely this problem in **His4Ever** ’s “Devotional” thread in **GD** :

post b/w **DDG** and **DavidB.**

> [@](#):
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> [Moderator Hat: ON]
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> **Duck Duck Goose** said:
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*\*Cite? Links?
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> \*\*  
> Excuse you? This isn’t a debate. That was a moderator warning. A nice one, but a warning nonetheless. You want to argue with it? You don’t do it in the thread.
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> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > I don’t remember seeing any instructions to the effect “don’t post that you’re reporting a post to the moderator”. I remember seeing instructions not to post simply “this OP is trolling” or “this post is hate speech”, but I don’t remember seeing instructions not to post “I’m reporting this post to a moderator”.\*\*
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> I have posted numerous times to leave the moderating to the moderator and simply report the post to us rather than talk about it in the thread itself. Other moderators have said similar things. You’ve been here long enough that I find it difficult to believe you’ve never seen such a post.
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> \*\*
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> > :I would have thought that posting “this post is problematic and I am reporting it to a moderator” would have the desirable effect of preventing the next 6 posters from also reporting the post to a moderator\*\*
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> More likely it will cause the person you are reporting to start an argument/discussion about whether or not it was a rule violation. We really don’t mind if we get multiple reports of the same message being a violation, but thanks for thinking of us.
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> If you have anything more to say on this matter, take it to e-mail.
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> * * *
> 
> David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator

Applying discretion and balance is the key. Posters helping out _is_ appreciated, and has been stated so. Helping isn’t an all-or-nothing proposition–or shouldn’t be. There’s absolutely no reason for that, and it’s important that this trainwreck not spook people away from helping. If the assistance goes too far, the poster is told–gently. It says something that such advice is very rarely needed.

But it’s also important to note that this issue is _not_ unprecedented or a matter of personality conflicts.

Veb

(Note: still no sleep but edited _again_ to try to make it more comprehensible. Apologies to all.)

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/287 "2003-01-10T11:43:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by OpalCat \*  
> \*\*Everyone on the board is a real person, living on planet Earth (or so can usually be assumed). We are all communicating with each other. How is this not the real world? It isn’t the _whole_ real world, but it is a part of it. It isn’t some fake alternate universe where nothing matters and nothing is real. Ask the various married couples who met on the board if they think it was real. \*\*

My apologies **OpalCat** , I was, of course, referring to those people who have no life **except** this board and/or other boards. My point is that if you live your life at one remove from reality, as in something **not** board related, then you need help.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/288 "2003-01-10T11:54:38Z")

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It seems to me that **DDG** tries to be helpful in promoting discussion, in exactly the same way that moderators often do.

In my own personal experience, **DDG** ’s input is always helpful. It isn’t always right, but it’s always helpful.

**DDG** is getting ragged on for for it, in _exactly the same way that moderators often do_.

But **DDG** is being put in an unfair situation. Don’t rag on **DDG** ’s ass as a proxy for ragging on a mod’s ass.

Rag on a mod and get banned by all means. Don’t rag on someone _else_ who’s just trying to be helpful.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/289 "2003-01-10T12:10:07Z")

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**TVeblen** , you edited your post after I responded to it and completely changed its apparent meaning. Now it makes no sense to me at all. What gives? Try again?

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/290 "2003-01-10T12:25:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \*  
> \*\ ***TVeblen** , you edited your post after I responded to it and completely changed its apparent meaning. Now it makes no sense to me at all. What gives? Try again? \*\*

Sorry, **Desmostylus** , I’m insommniac and totally screwed the pooch on coding the first time I posted it. Hit “submit” instead of “preview”. It was partially written, but the only things changed were 1. some bolding tags cleaned up and 2. the final paragraph added. Since it’s a long post in a long thread, it seemed more sensible to just clean it up than re-post the finished version.

I’m sorry that it caused confusion. (And here I was trying to build a _coherent_ point!) That’s what happens when I post on no sleep at all.

Veb

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/291 "2003-01-10T12:38:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Xploder \*  
> \*\*My apologies **OpalCat** , I was, of course, referring to those people who have no life **except** this board and/or other boards. My point is that if you live your life at one remove from reality, as in something **not** board related, then you need help. \*\*

k, gotcha. I just get a little jumpy when I think people are implying that somehow none of this is “real”… (some people really do think that this is some sort of null universe)

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/292 "2003-01-10T12:38:32Z")

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Okay, **TVeblen**.

What I saw was just **DDG** ’s quote posted by you, with no accompanaying text at all. It looked to me like you were saying something like “well, **DDG** ’s already said it, what more can I add?”.

So you did a few versions.

But I still can’t understand the final version. Try again tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/293 "2003-01-10T12:39:25Z")

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TV: it confuses me, too… I don’t know who said the “quote:” bits are by, or if they are even all by the same person.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/294 "2003-01-10T12:40:26Z")

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> DDG is getting ragged on for for it, in exactly the same way that moderators often do.
> 
> But DDG is being put in an unfair situation. Don’t rag on DDG’s ass as a proxy for ragging on a mod’s ass.
> 
> Rag on a mod and get banned by all means. Don’t rag on someone else who’s just trying to be helpful.

Oh…so only rag on the Moderators, who are visible and noted as having these particular responsibilities in an official capacity, rather than on a Mere User who takes these responsibilities on herself?

:rolleyes: indeed. If she doesn’t want moderator heat, she should stop modding. How hard is that?

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/295 "2003-01-10T12:50:46Z")

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**Hamadryad** The point is, stop ragging on people who are _trying_ to be helpful.

Four thousand rolleyes. She isnt’ “modding”. She can’t ban you.

I don’t think that even the mods want “moderator heat”.

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/296 "2003-01-10T13:00:41Z")

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Hey **Desmostylus** I believe that **Hamadryad** may have been referring to where the mods DID say that **Duck Duck Goose** was acting like a so-called “junior mod”. Whether or not she can ban doesn’t come into it.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/297 "2003-01-10T13:19:24Z")

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Are you maroons **still** arguing about this?

Get a life, will ya?

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/298 "2003-01-10T13:44:12Z")

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Geez. This is why I generally avoid the Pit.

I wish I’d never have opened this thread. I further wish I’d have not read it all.

Why?

Because there is now a long list of Dopers that I previously had held in high regard, but now hold very little respect for them.

The Pit (and this thread) once again confirms for me that the percentage of judgemental assholes in the human population is shockingly high.

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**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/299 "2003-01-10T13:45:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Algernon \*  
> The Pit (and this thread) once again confirms for me that the percentage of judgemental assholes in the human population is shockingly high.

Oh, the irony…

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-search-mod-orgy/147537/300 "2003-01-10T13:52:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*Are you maroons **still** arguing about this?
> 
> Get a life, will ya? \*\*

Don’t see much “arguing” as much thinly veiled personal attacks and eye rolling assaults on logic. It is clear that the Unban Satan thread still has fallout, as will this thread. The nice thing (if any) about this thread is it helps with my personal determination of who is an ass or not. Conversely, my estimation of a few people has grown greatly by their well thought out posts. Notice I am not naming either as their has been quite enough rocks thrown here already.

As to your second point- I concur.

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