# Google Stadia. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 31, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797 "2019-03-31T02:05:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CastletonSnob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@CastletonSnob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CastletonSnob)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/1 "2019-03-31T02:05:17Z")
> **[Google's Stadia game-streaming platform kills downloads and lets you play...](https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/19/googles-stadia-game-streaming-platform-kills-huge-downloads/)** > > Onstage at GDC, Google CEO Sundar Pichai announced the company’s latest big initiative, taking on the entire gaming industry with a live-streaming service called Stadia that will be launching this year. The service will let gamers leave their hefty... Will you get one? ---
**Author:** ![cupton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@cupton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cupton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/2 "2019-05-10T04:11:37Z")
It’s no accident that streaming gaming hasn’t caught on yet: gamers are very skeptical of it for latency reasons. [What latency feels like on Google’s Stadia cloud gaming platform](https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/20/what-latency-feels-like-on-googles-stadia-cloud-gaming-platform/) > [@](#): > > …the latency between input and something being displayed onscreen isn’t imperceptible… That’s a no-go for a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/3 "2019-05-10T08:08:11Z")
I’m unwilling to accept any noticible latency in terms of interacting with my games. Now I realize that latency is an inherent thing when interacting with other players - but having the game processed locally means that the response to your controls and visual feedback to what you’re doing is always immediate. That’s an entirely different kind of thing than other players actually being a tenth of a second ahead of their actual position on your screen, which interpolation (and potentially client side hit detection) makes this essentially transparent to you. Having there be a noticible delay between your controls and the screen change is intolerable. I bought a monitor with no processing hardware (no scaling/resizer/picture quality settings) because it shaved 8-12ms off the input lag of the unit. I find gaming on TVs that have noticible input lag (20ms+) due to screen processing to be really annoying. So “cloud gaming” is probably always going to be a no-go to me unless they develop a way to encode/decode video that doesn’t add more than a few milliseconds of latency and keep servers in basically every city to make it manageable. It seems like every time a cloud gaming proposal comes up, people really want it to work. “Wouldn’t it be awesome if you could game without having to worry about your own hardware”… and my answer to that is no. Having a massively powerful processing unit in the same room with me giving me instantaneous gaming response is awesome, thanks. Edit: On the other hand, I might be willing to deal with some limitations for mobile gaming specifically. Mobile gaming necessarily has power/weight/size limitations, so you can’t just build an arbitrarily big and power hungry machine. So I’d never accept cloud gaming to replace a PC, but I guess I might give it a try if it put better quality games on a tablet/phone. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/4 "2021-05-13T03:26:01Z")
So I needed a new Chromecast, and Google was offering a sale on the Founder’s Edition stadia set (because they didn’t get rid of enough of them at launch, presumably). For the price of a Chromecast Ultra, I got the ultra, the swank Google Stadia Controller, and a free membership to Stadia Pro for some number of months that I don’t remember. I have to say… it’s a SHAME this didn’t catch on. It is incredible; I honestly can’t notice any difference between playing on this versus a console. The controls are crisp and responsive, the controller itself is really nice and feels good in my hands, and everything about it just seems to WORK. I don’t even understand HOW it works, but it sure does. I still prefer PC for most of my gaming needs, but for console-type games, this is just excellent! ---
**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/5 "2021-05-13T07:57:28Z")
Well, you can always hope that Amazon’s Luna catches on. Can’t say I am a fan of the idea, and I’m not sad it hasn’t caught on. ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/6 "2021-05-13T11:15:13Z")
One of the issues that prevents the tech savvy from taking up Stadia is Google’s poor record of keeping projects that don’t do so well going - who is going to buy a game on Stadia (which is similar ownership to steam) if you can’t be sure it’s still going to be available in a few years time? They do have a subscription model, but the Microsoft games pass seems to have stolen their thunder on that one. ---
**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/7 "2021-05-14T05:52:19Z")
> [@Teuton](#): > > who is going to buy a game on Stadia (which is similar ownership to steam) Less so even, since you don’t have even the download available if Stadia dies. At least Steam doesn’t delete a downloaded game off a HD, and even owners of delisted games can still download them. (I have a couple that are delisted and Not for Sale games in my library that I think I can still download, not that I really desire too) ---
**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/8 "2021-05-14T09:11:28Z")
I did say it was similar - for the majority of Steam games, if Steam itself was to fold, access would be lost. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/9 "2022-09-29T18:33:16Z")
Aaaaand it’s dead: > **[Google kills Stadia, will refund game purchases](https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/google-stadia-officially-shuts-down-january-2023-will-refund-game-purchases/)** > > The inevitable death of Google's game-streaming service happens early next year. But they are giving refunds for game purchases, so maybe the next time Google launches a doomed service, people will be more willing to take a shot at it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/10 "2022-09-29T18:59:37Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > But they are giving refunds for game purchases, so maybe the next time Google launches a doomed service, people will be more willing to take a shot at it. I believe they are also refunding all hardware purchases made through it? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/11 "2022-09-29T19:19:25Z")
Only through the Google store, apparently: > We will be refunding all Stadia hardware purchases made through the Google Store, and all game and add-on content purchases made through the Stadia store. I’m not sure exactly what was available via the Google store vs. the Stadia store (why were there two stores, anyway?). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/12 "2022-09-29T20:02:01Z")
Sorry, was there a machine required? Like a roku or something? Is that what they are refunding, or simply the controllers? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/13 "2022-09-29T20:09:16Z")
If all you had was a TV, you needed a Chromecast device and controller. If you gamed on a phone/tablet, just a controller. And if you had a laptop/PC, you didn’t need anything extra (though sometimes a controller is a better experience than a mouse/keyboard). The controllers are apparently perfectly decent Bluetooth/USB devices. Might be worth picking one up if they have a fire sale. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/14 "2022-09-29T20:11:18Z")
So they are refunding controllers? That’s the hardware? I doubt they are refunding everyone’s Chromecast. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/15 "2022-09-29T20:15:19Z")
There’s a FAQ: > **[Stadia Announcement FAQ - Stadia Help](https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/12790109?hl=en)** > > Last updated: March 8, 2023On September 29, 2022, Google announced that the Stadia servers will be turned off on January 18, 2023. The following article includes answers to common questions and will b > Q: Will I get a refund? What is available for a refund? > > A: We will be offering refunds for all Stadia hardware purchases (Stadia Controller, Founders Edition, Premiere Edition, and Play and Watch with Google TV packages) made through the Google Store and software transactions (games and add-on purchases) through the Stadia store. Stadia Pro subscriptions are not eligible for refund, however you will be able to continue playing your games in Pro without further charges until the final wind down date. > > Q: Do I have to return my hardware to get a refund? > > A: Most hardware purchases (Stadia Controller, Founders Edition, Premiere Edition, and Play and Watch with Google TV packages) made directly from Google will not need to be returned. More details on how to obtain a refund for your Stadia hardware purchases will be posted here in the coming weeks. So, definitely the controllers, and I guess the Chromecasts bought in a bundle. Pretty nice deal for people that bought the package, really. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/16 "2022-09-29T20:17:47Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > So, definitely the controllers, and I guess the Chromecasts bought in a bundle. Pretty nice deal for people that bought package, really. It is, wish I had one now. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/17 "2022-09-29T21:02:51Z")
Damn. I have purchased three Stadia controller/chromecast packages (mine, and one for my daughter and her fiance for cheap college gaming). Honestly, it was actually a pretty damn good service; in fact, last night I ended up playing “Deliver Us the Moon” through mine for… 5-6 hours. I didn’t purchase a LOT of games through it; Cyberpunk, Baldur’s Gate 3, Borderlands 3… I think that might be it; my other games were all obtained as part of the $10/month Stadia Pro subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/18 "2022-09-30T01:13:18Z")
I guess it’d be nice if they gave you a key for a Steam copy of the games you lost, but I guess if they give you your money back, you can just go buy one. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/19 "2022-09-30T03:13:18Z")
Can’t help but post this: [![](https://i.redd.it/fpq7485lquq91.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/fpq7485lquq91.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797/20 "2022-09-30T03:22:54Z")
It is true; can’t say I personally know anybody that uses Stadia other than the people I bought them for (and even they really don’t use theirs; hell, my random play time last night was the first time I’ve even fired mine up in six months). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/google-stadia/831797.md?page=2)