# Google's doodle today will obviously recognize D-Day, right? Wrong. It's about drive-ins. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277 "2012-06-06T15:49:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/101 "2012-06-07T15:28:29Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But what the fuck am i supposed to do, then? Treat **Quasi** like a kid? Should i pat him on the head and say, “Yes, very nice. Why don’t you run along now?” > > He’s made very clear, on numerous occasions, that he would like, for the most part, to be treated like everyone else on this board. He has asked that we be patient with his dementia and the quirks thereof, but, as far as i can tell, he doesn’t want to be simply told that he’s right all the time, or have smoke blown up his ass just because of his illness. > > And having dementia is not a license to make any old argument and have it accepted by people who disagree with you. He posted on multiple occasions in the thread, maintaining essentially the same argument on each occasion. The posts seemed, to me at least, to be lucid and representative of a particular (and, in America, fairly common) attitude to military veterans. There was nothing in any of the posts to indicate that the point of view he presented did not reflect his actual beliefs on the matter. > > To be honest, before i made my first post calling him a “stupid old douchebag,” i hesitated a moment. I suspected that it might lead to this sort of clusterfuck. But then i thought, “Fuck that, i’m going to treat him just like i would treat anyone else who made the same comment in the Pit.” And that’s exactly what i did. I didn’t pick on him because of who is he is or because of his health issues; i treated him like a Doper in the Pit. > > As i said earlier, this is not part of some bigger problem, as far as i’m concerned. I’ve called plenty of people names in the Pit before, without it developing into some sort of long-term enmity. I don’t generally carry battles or grudges from thread to thread, especially when the battles are unusual, one-off conflicts like this one. But nor do i let my liking for someone stop me from calling them out when i disagree with them. And if that happens in the Pit, then insults might be involved. > > If **Quasi** wants to punch my lights out as a result of an incident like this, then maybe he needs to ask himself whether he should step into this forum at all. Maybe he should ask if it’s possible for the mods to adjust his account so that he can’t come to the Pit. And maybe the powers-that-be on this board need to consider whether it’s possible to maintain the sort of situation that we have now, whereby **Quasi** is considered to be “just another Doper,” except when he’s not. No, because it’s not the mods’ job to make people act like decent human beings. You know as well as anyone else that no one actually wants to be treated like every other person when they have a disorder. It’s something people say because they get tired of people feeling sorry for them. The fact is that you angered a normally docile old man with a mental disorder to the point that he wanted to inflict seriously bodily harm on you. The fact remains that he was appologizing for being in the pit and admitting that he shouldn’t be here. The fact remains that there was no reason to say what you said save to try to hurt him. And you definitely know that he can’t fight back. Other people in this thread have shown the ability to actually argue with him, without using his fucking disability as a fucking insult. May someone say to your loved ones or you in your old age what you’ve said to Quasi. Believe, me, I’d say more, but you aren’t worth the Warning. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/102 "2012-06-07T15:39:01Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You know as well as anyone else that no one actually wants to be treated like every other person when they have a disorder. It’s something people say because they get tired of people feeling sorry for them. Speaking of sanctimonious bullshit. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/103 "2012-06-07T15:53:29Z")
Sigh, this reminds me of the letters the Washington prints every week complaining that they had the temerity to print a picture of kids enjoying ice cream on a nice spring day on their front page rather than whatever pet issue the reader thought was more important. Veterans sacrificed themselves for our country so they must be given our attention at all times to the exclusion of all else No, it’s fire fighters who sacrificed themselves on 911 who must be given our full attention to the exclusion of all else. No, it’s police officers who put themselves in the line of fire who must be given our full attention to the exclusion of all else. No, it’s vicitims of domestic violence are truly suffering and not being heard who must be given our full attention to the exclusion of all else. No, it’s autism suffers, breast cancer survivors, recovering alcoholics, abused children, refugees… The great sacrifices of the men and women in uniform mean nothing, if in the end we can’t sometimes revel in seeing children enjoying ice cream on a nice spring day. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/104 "2012-06-07T16:43:10Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > We go to the one in Wellfleet, MA on Cape Cod. It’s a blast! My brother’s in-laws live there. If I ever go there with him, I’ll have to check it out! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/105 "2012-06-07T17:17:49Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > And no, you’re right, I don’t want or need special treatment because of being batshit crazy, but I DO expect a certain amount of respect for my opinions, if not my age. I TRIED my best to keep this cordial, but it wasn’t meant to be, I reckon, so here is my apology to the mods and admins but not to **mehendo**. I have no further use for this person. > > Quasimodem So, in other words, you DO want special treatment. Here is your definition of “cordial”: > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Unbelievable! > > We’re arguing about people who saved our lives??? > > Sorry, but since I stumbled in here, what are you guys _smoking_, or don’t you know about the two World Wars? > > Sounds like you don’t and don’t give a shit. > > Quasimodem When you accuse me (and others) of being on drugs, and of not knowing and not giving a shit about war veterans, just because we disagree with you over an internet doodle, then you’re not being “cordial,” and you’ll get what anyone else gets in the Pit. And the fact that you STILL continue with the same argument, asserting that we “can’t be bothered to recognize the sacrifices” of the troops just because we don’t care what Google did with its homepage on D Day, suggests that you’re just as ignorant on this subject today as you were yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/106 "2012-06-07T17:18:49Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I made the same response to him that i would have made to anyone else who made that post, because it’s a fucking stupid post and we’re in the Pit. He’s the one who made threats of physical violence in this thread, in response to nothing more than a fairly typical Pit-style insult. As i said before, if you don’t like the heat, the kitchen isn’t the place to be. I think you should re-read this, because while I agree that is the type of response you would have typically made to what you considered a stupid post, it doesn’t have to be. I’m of the opinion that we should try to generate more light, not more heat. Not everyone wipes the slate clear of their impressions of someone from thread to thread and the more heat you give off the less likely you are to have anyone be willing to stand near enough to bask in your light. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/107 "2012-06-07T17:49:29Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The fact is that you angered a normally docile old man with a mental disorder to the point that he wanted to inflict seriously bodily harm on you. The fact remains that he was apologizing for being in the pit and admitting that he shouldn’t be here. The fact remains that there was no reason to say what you said save to try to hurt him. And you definitely know that he can’t fight back. You and other people keep saying that he was apologizing for being here, and yet he kept on with the same arguments and the same insults. Yes, they were insults. When you say that i must be smoking drugs, and that i must not know about the world wars, and that i must not care about veterans, just because i disagree with you about a stupid Google Doodle, then you’re calling me stupid and immoral, even if you’re not cursing or using epithets. I don’t care if what he said wasn’t an “insult” by some formal SDMB interpretation of the term; it was clearly meant to impy that those who disagreed with him were ignorant and uncaring, and i get sick of that sort of bullshit, especially when it comes to accusations of not caring about the troops. There’s been too much of that crap since 9/11. And i love how his threat of bodily harm towards me is somehow my fault, in your puny mind. I’ve been called all sorts of things on this board, and i’ve never once made a threat of physical violence. I’ve insulted plenty of other people around here, too, and none of them have ever threatened me. And what do you mean “he can’t fight back”? He clearly can, because he did. He called me a “corksoaker” (very droll), threatened me, called me a “sick pile of shit,” and then came back again to say that he has no further use for me. In the world of message boards, that qualifies quite easily as “fighting back.” > [@BigT](#): > > Other people in this thread have shown the ability to actually argue with him, without using his fucking disability as a fucking insult. Show me where i used his disability as an insult, you driveling piece of snot. My God, but you must be one of the most egregiously self-righteous twats ever to lurk in your mother’s basement. You are the living, breathing definition of simpering, whining sanctimony. I swear that you must get up every morning and ask yourself, “How can i be a bigger, wetter pussy today than i was yesterday?” > [@Mtgman](#): > > I think you should re-read this, because while I agree that is the type of response you would have typically made to what you considered a stupid post, it doesn’t have to be. I’m of the opinion that we should try to generate more light, not more heat. Not everyone wipes the slate clear of their impressions of someone from thread to thread and the more heat you give off the less likely you are to have anyone be willing to stand near enough to bask in your light. > > Enjoy, > Steven This is awesome! First, i’m a bad guy because i insult **Quasi** in the Pit. Now i’m supposed to take this incident as a more general lesson, and not insult anybody, ever. When people stop accusing me of being stupid and ignorant and uncaring because i don’t want a D-Day widget on Google, then i’ll stop insulting them in return. Is that simple enough for you? If **Quasi** ’s post had been merely stupid, i would have responded much more temperately. But, as i suggested above, i get sick of these semi-veiled accusations, especially in areas of politics and war, where anything less than 100% Americanism is considered stupidity or treason. I didn’t like it back when i was being called a “friend to Saddam” for opposing the Iraq war, and i don’t like it now that i’m being called indifferent to veterans for failing to see the big deal about the absence of a D-Day widget on Google. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/108 "2012-06-07T17:55:22Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Those of you who can’t be bothered to recognize the sacrifices offered up EVERY DAY of any war would do well to take another look and be grateful not only on military holidays but EVERY DAY that you’re allowed to write drivel such as I have read here, walk around in peace and say what you want. Why are you posting on the dope when you should be honoring our veterans and soldiers? ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/109 "2012-06-07T18:12:00Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Why are you posting on the dope when you should be honoring our veterans and soldiers? This is awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/110 "2012-06-07T18:23:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > First, i’m a bad guy because i insult **Quasi** in the Pit. Now i’m supposed to take this incident as a more general lesson, and not insult anybody, ever. When people stop accusing me of being stupid and ignorant and uncaring because i don’t want a D-Day widget on Google, then i’ll stop insulting them in return. Is that simple enough for you? I personally think a life where I don’t insult people, even if they’ve insulted me, is a worthwhile goal. We show who we are by our reactions as much as by our actions. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/111 "2012-06-07T18:25:04Z")
For what it’s worth, **mhendo** , I don’t get why everyone is jumping on you either. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/112 "2012-06-07T18:33:18Z")
> [@Mtgman](#): > > I personally think a life where I don’t insult people, even if they’ve insulted me, is a worthwhile goal. We show who we are by our reactions as much as by our actions. > > Enjoy, > Steven Let me suggest, then, that you hang out in the Pit and give your charming little lecture to everyone who throws an insult. I’m sure they’ll all “Enjoy” it. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/113 "2012-06-07T18:43:22Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > i don’t like it now that i’m being called indifferent to veterans for failing to see the big deal about the absence of a D-Day widget on Google. Clearly you’re a Communist for not caring that an annoying “google-doodle” cartoon doesn’t honor veterans. Sheesh. Go back to swilling your borsht and vodka, you Trotsky-ite. In the future _all_ of your energies should be spent (ALL of your energy–how much time did you spend eating and sleeping???1!!?) on getting Google to do a stupid cartoon that deals with D-Day. I hope you’ve learned your lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/114 "2012-06-07T19:00:16Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Clearly you’re a Communist for not caring that an annoying “google-doodle” cartoon doesn’t honor veterans. Sheesh. Go back to swilling your borsht and vodka, you Trotsky-ite. > > In the future _all_ of your energies should be spent (ALL of your energy–how much time did you spend eating and sleeping???1!!?) on getting Google to do a stupid cartoon that deals with D-Day. > > I hope you’ve learned your lesson. Flearly you’re a Sociassischt because your making some silly joke instead of honouring every single item on [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_7)list. ETA: ON the other hand, I think it’s perfectly acceptable to kick the History Channel in the shins if it didn’t run some sort of DDay program instead of the usual claptrap they’ve been playing for years now. There just isn’t enough WWII on that channel anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/115 "2012-06-07T19:01:20Z")
_scribbles notes_ Would we want this doodle to deal with only the Americans or can we acknowledge the other allied nations. Oh that makes me think - do we want an alternate doodle for [google.de](http://google.de)? It’s important to get the specs right you know. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/116 "2012-06-07T19:22:57Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > For what it’s worth, **mhendo** , I don’t get why everyone is jumping on you either. I agree. \*\*Quasi \*\*, as much as I like the guy, was wrong and frankly, pretty offensive in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/117 "2012-06-07T19:53:38Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > _scribbles notes_ > > Would we want this doodle to deal with only the Americans or can we acknowledge the other allied nations. > > Oh that makes me think - do we want an alternate doodle for [google.de](http://google.de)? > > It’s important to get the specs right you know. Ummm, clearly just US. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/118 "2012-06-07T20:02:01Z")
Whoa, hold up! The other countries are made of people too? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/119 "2012-06-07T20:25:55Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Ummm, clearly just US. No, for completeness sake, we must honour the brave people who fought thoughout history. For example, had the battle of Hastings gone differently, or that bloke didn’t get an arrow in his eye, would the impetus and result of the American Revolution have been the same? It sounds like you’ve got lots of honouring to catch up on, get cracking! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277/120 "2012-06-07T20:44:31Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > For what it’s worth, **mhendo** , I don’t get why everyone is jumping on you either. > [@Telemark](#): > > I agree. \*\*Quasi \*\*, as much as I like the guy, was wrong and frankly, pretty offensive in this thread. Thanks, although to be fair, it’s not everyone; just a few sand-in-the-vagina Mrs. Kravitz types like **StupidOldHag** and **BigTurd**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/googles-doodle-today-will-obviously-recognize-d-day-right-wrong-its-about-drive-ins/624277.md?page=7)