# GOP chairwoman calls for 'complete review' of NSA eavesdropping

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567 "2006-02-08T18:35:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/21 "2006-02-08T21:38:54Z")

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Might as well mention this as well.

[http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Rove2.htm](http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Rove2.htm)

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> The White House has been twisting arms to ensure that no Republican member votes against President Bush in the Senate Judiciary Committee’s investigation of the administration’s unauthorized wiretapping.
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> Congressional sources said Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove has threatened to blacklist any Republican who votes against the president. The sources said the blacklist would mean a halt in any White House political or financial support of senators running for re-election in November.

/tin foil hat on

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/22 "2006-02-08T22:21:36Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Might as well mention this as well.
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> [http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Rove2.htm](http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Rove2.htm)

Yes! Do it Karl! Do it! 🙂

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/23 "2006-02-08T22:39:24Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Anyone know if Karl Rove has [tipped her the black spot](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7077659&postcount=37) yet?

Anyone know if that story is even true? A cite from a left-wing soruce is hardly convincing, especially since it’s unclear that the committee will even be voting on anything.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/24 "2006-02-08T23:15:34Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> Anyone know if that story is even true? A cite from a left-wing soruce is hardly convincing, especially since it’s unclear that the committee will even be voting on anything.

Has _Insight_ changed owners recently? Is it not still a right-wing rag owned by the “Rev” Sun-Myung Moon?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/25 "2006-02-08T23:17:05Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> Anyone know if that story is even true? A cite from a left-wing soruce is hardly convincing, especially since it’s unclear that the committee will even be voting on anything.

My understanding was that Insight was right leaning. A quick look at their Google ads has changed my mind though. 😛

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/26 "2006-02-08T23:22:58Z")

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> [@saoirse](#):
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> Has _Insight_ changed owners recently? Is it not still a right-wing rag owned by the “Rev” Sun-Myung Moon?

I just looked at their “sites we’re watching” section, and every cite listed was a right-leaning organization. I assumed “sites we’re watching” meant sites they were debunking, not sites that were sources for material. Am I wrong…?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/27 "2006-02-08T23:45:12Z")

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I think you’re wrong, **John**. From Insight’s “About Us” webpage:

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> Published by News World Communications like its sister publication The Washington Times, Insight provides its subscribers an intelligence briefing on the Washington behind the lights and cameras. Insight features exclusive articles by top Washington reporters from some of the world’s most serious news organizations.
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> Insight also features commentary by renowned pundits such as Wesley Pruden, John O’Sullivan, Michael Barone, Rich Lowry, John Leo and others.

I don’t think they’d be bragging about being the _WT_’s “sister publication” if they were actually running a feature for debunking it.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/28 "2006-02-08T23:48:40Z")

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Plus I just looked at their commentator Pruden’s lates column, which was essentially a complaint that the recent Congressional National Prayer Breakfast didn’t have enough references to Jesus in it.

Well, **John** , are you willing to believe the Rove story now that you know it’s from a right-wing source? 😉

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/29 "2006-02-08T23:50:44Z")

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I read _Insight_ through most of the 80s, and it was definitely right-wing. I found it interesting, but they were clearly biased. I believe they were the first magazine to run the “How They Voted” section for Congress.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/30 "2006-02-09T00:10:19Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Well, **John** , are you willing to believe the Rove story now that you know it’s from a right-wing source? 😉

No. We libertarians are just as suspicious of right wing sources as we are of left wing sources.

It’s just so vague… and it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Does Bush really want to help increase the number of Democrats in the Senate? What “White House financial support” and how much is it? What is this “vote” of which the article speaks? It sounds very fishy.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/31 "2006-02-09T00:13:51Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> No. We libertarians are just as suspicious of right wing sources as we are of left wing sources.
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> It’s just so vague… and it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Does Bush really want to help increase the number of Democrats in the Senate? What “White House financial support” and how much is it? What is this “vote” of which the article speaks? It sounds very fishy.

Just my opinion, Rove/Bush don’t want the Dems to win. They expect all the Pub senators to fall in line, because they still think their coattails will actually help.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/32 "2006-02-09T01:16:42Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> No. We libertarians are just as suspicious of right wing sources as we are of left wing sources.

Paranoia for everybody!

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> It’s just so vague… and it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Does Bush really want to help increase the number of Democrats in the Senate? What “White House financial support” and how much is it? What is this “vote” of which the article speaks? It sounds very fishy.

Could be the support refers to primary elections; that if the GOP congresscritters don’t toe the line they’ll find White House backed opponents trying to take their Republican slot on the primary ballot.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/33 "2006-02-09T02:05:37Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Paranoia for everybody!  
> Could be the support refers to primary elections; that if the GOP congresscritters don’t toe the line they’ll find White House backed opponents trying to take their Republican slot on the primary ballot.

Actually, a little bit of paranoia can be a good thing, Given the primary assumption that all politicians are 99 percent bullshit, and assuming they will do anything to get re-elected (or at least to barely avoid jail), it becomes less painful when one of them actually fails to meet our already low expectations. One of them. Yeah. Heh heh heh.

It’s like in a driving class, when the instructor tells you to expect people to do stupid things at the worst possible time.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-chairwoman-calls-for-complete-review-of-nsa-eavesdropping/343567/34 "2006-02-09T20:20:46Z")

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I’m waiting on the results of the chair meeting. I’d like to see if she’s still saying the same things afterwards.

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