# GOP consultant & two other men found dead in double-murder-suicide in Orlando

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 24, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778 "2007-08-24T16:39:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/21 "2007-08-24T20:11:25Z")

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Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with journalists NOT writing up the most sensationalistic angles first and asking questions later. My first reaction to the little snippet of story I read was GAY LOVE TRIANGLE MURDER! because of the duh factor. Republican men in their thirties who are “roommates,” but apparently financially successful? Right. I didn’t immediately post that because there’s always a chance that something else happened, like a fantasy football league meeting got out of control.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/22 "2007-08-24T21:38:08Z")

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For whatever it’s worth, as a followup to my post, here’s a site with a screen capture of that Google link.

[http://www.towleroad.com/2007/08/orlando-murder-.html](http://www.towleroad.com/2007/08/orlando-murder-.html)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/23 "2007-08-24T23:08:51Z")

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[QUOTE=ShibbOleth]  
One of the [sub-links](http://wonkette.com/politics/from-the-inbox-dept/the-secret-life-of-ralph-gonzalez-293176.php) is even more speculative.  
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And it says, “Its still unclear who shot who, but I do know that his [Ralph Gonzalez’] own roommate didn’t know he was gay.” 😕 How is that possible?!

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/24 "2007-08-24T23:16:12Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
I feel as if the entire Republican Party in this country (yes, even including the everyday ones I know in real life) is pulling an elaborate joke on the rest of us. The punchline: **they’re all gay**.  
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Spoiler - those of you who haven’t read pTerry’s Monstrous Regiment might not want to read.

Just like everyone in the Army turned out to be female, eh?

Bush and Cheney alone in the oval office - let’s not go there. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/25 "2007-08-25T01:09:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Voyager]  
Bush and Cheney alone in the oval office - let’s not go there. :eek:  
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Guess those ‘five polyps’ removed last month were really Karl Rove’s finger-holds…

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2007, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/26 "2007-08-25T14:35:09Z")

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Here’s [some more background on the lives of the dead men,](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-murder2507aug25,0,6848684.story) but there’s still no word on who killed who, etc.

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**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/27 "2007-08-25T21:45:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Voyager]  
Bush and Cheney alone in the oval office - let’s not go there. :eek:  
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Maybe the man-size safe in Cheney’s office contains all his secret files…and his secret boy toys! :eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/28 "2007-08-26T18:14:10Z")

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[Gonzalez’ funeral will be tomorrow in Miami.](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/stcloud/orl-cfbriefs26_507aug26,0,1351233.story) Police still have released no more information about the case.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/29 "2007-08-27T03:16:38Z")

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Drake’s relatives say it was likely that [he was the shooter](http://www.wftv.com/news/13969762/detail.html).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/30 "2007-08-28T15:08:30Z")

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[Update:](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/ucf/orl-murder2807aug28,0,1867451.story) Police have determined it was Jason Drake (a former U.S. Marine) who shot Gonzalez, Abrami, and himself. They still don’t know why.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/31 "2007-08-31T21:57:34Z")

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Hmmmm . . . Now some are connecting this story to [Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_mchenry). See [here](http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2007/08/wholl-be-next-republican-hypocrite-to.html) and [here.](http://bluenc.com/florida-murder/suicides-nc-ties)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/32 "2007-09-01T00:34:00Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
but there’s still no word on who killed who, etc.  
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_There was blood and a single gunshot  
but just who shot who?_  
–Barry Manilow, “Copacabana”

Yeah, I know: I just admitted to being able to quote Barry Manilow. Excuse me while I go hang my head in embarrassment.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/33 "2007-09-01T00:41:32Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Hmmmm . . . Now some are connecting this story to [Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_mchenry). See [here](http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2007/08/wholl-be-next-republican-hypocrite-to.html) and [here.](http://bluenc.com/florida-murder/suicides-nc-ties)  
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Let me just say that, IME, Howie Klein of DownWithTyranny! is a bit quick to repeat juicy stuff without checking to see if it’s reliable. (Can’t tell you a thing about Blue NC.) So take anything he says with the appropriate bag of salt.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/34 "2007-09-01T13:48:36Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Hmmmm . . . Now some are connecting this story to [Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_mchenry). See [here](http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2007/08/wholl-be-next-republican-hypocrite-to.html) and [here.](http://bluenc.com/florida-murder/suicides-nc-ties)  
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[More on same.](http://patgobyebye.blogspot.com/) (Makes no pretense of being an unbiased site.)

Relevant [DU thread.](http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1707048) (Likewise.)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/35 "2007-09-05T23:15:40Z")

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[Curioser and curioser . . .](http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg122111.html)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/36 "2007-09-06T01:36:22Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
I’m guessing the cause of death will turn out to be “strangulation with feather boa.”  
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Man, that’s cold. Tacky. Funny as hell. I wish I’d posted it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-consultant-two-other-men-found-dead-in-double-murder-suicide-in-orlando/416778/37 "2007-09-06T04:58:15Z")

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I admit I haven’t read all the links, but it seems we’ve gotten this far without anyone blaming it on the Clintons. That’s a milestone in itself.

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