# GOP helps the Green party get on ballot in NC **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 7, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977 "2018-04-07T12:15:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/21 "2018-04-07T16:52:25Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Those manoeuvres sure made it easier for the Nazi party… > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/us/politics/arthur-jones-illinois.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/us/politics/arthur-jones-illinois.html) :shrug: as far as I’m concerned, anything that bleeds a few Nazi voters off from the Republican party is a feature, not a bug. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/22 "2018-04-07T16:54:31Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Check the signatures for validity. We had the same thing happen in Michigan, only it was Dems and a fake “Tea Party”. Couple of guys got convicted over fraudulent signatures. This has nothing to do with signatures. check out the article in the first post. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/23 "2018-04-08T03:43:17Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > But you could change that system to make it less of a binary decision. Congressional systems in other countries use variants of proportional voting or ranked voting. But then we’d be like…New Zealand! Then we might next start…treating aboriginals decently, or something! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/24 "2018-04-08T16:41:27Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Not without a complete Constitutional Convention. And we can’t even pull off amendments anymore. There is nothing in the federal Constitution which dictates the voting systems the States must use to elect their Representatives, Senators or Electors. For example, some states allocate their electoral votes in a way that is tied to their congressional districts. They could instead use state-wide proportional voting, or ranked preferences, or run-offs if no-one has a majority, to allocate their electoral votes. Same for senatorial elections: a state could adopt ranked preferences or run-offs. There is a restriction on the Representatives: federal law says that they must be elected from single-member constituencies. That likely prevents any sort of PR, but they could still have ranked preference voting, or run-offs. (Subject of course to any limitations in the state constitutions, but my point is you wouldn’t need a constitutional convention or constitutional amendment; action can be taken at the state level.) > [@](#): > > Not that these other systems are superior. You still have the same representations problems due to first-past-the-post voting. It’s the voting system you have to change, not the government. Sure, there are debates about the merits of different voting systems. I’m just saying it’s not set in stone and the individual states, as “laboratories of democracy” in the federal state, could try different ways to run their state and federal elections. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/25 "2018-04-08T20:13:06Z")
well the Supreme Court ruled states cannot put term limits on Congressmen. So a voting change could end up in court and not be OKd. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/26 "2018-04-09T15:29:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And thereby setting up hordes of young men entering college that year for bitter disappointment. That’s a relief. For a second I thought I had gone to the wrong college…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977/27 "2018-04-09T16:19:48Z")
Hell, we _all_ did. Some were just wronger than others. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-helps-the-green-party-get-on-ballot-in-nc/811977.md?page=1)