# GOP Presidential Debate

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [May 4, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691 "2007-05-04T00:13:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/81 "2007-05-04T18:29:29Z")

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[QUOTE=ShibbOleth]  
What’s the take on Ron Paul? Is the the Republican version of Kucinich, or is he a true free-thinking Republican? I am intrigued by his votes against the war on Iraq and the Patriot Act.  
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He ran for president before on the Libertarian ticket. Does that explain things?

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/82 "2007-05-04T18:35:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
Why won’t he flip over the tortoise?  
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Let me tell you about my mother.

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### Author: ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/83 "2007-05-04T19:08:29Z")

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[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach]  
Truly, it pales in comparison to the Algonquin-like Shrub, Repugnicans and Faux News, no?  
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I like Shrub. It’s got texan bite to it.

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### Author: ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/84 "2007-05-04T20:41:30Z")

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[Tag Clouds for the Republican Debate](http://www.pollster.com/mystery_pollster/tag_clouds_for_the_republican.php)

I’m not sure that they mean much, but I always find them interesting to look at.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/85 "2007-05-04T22:05:51Z")

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[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]  
I like Shrub. It’s got texan bite to it.  
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And given that Bush named his first company “Shrub” in Spanish (“Arbusto”), my feeling is he pretty much stuck himself with that one.

I still prefer “Fuckup-in-Chief,” though. It’s the title he’s earned.

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### Author: ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/86 "2007-05-04T22:14:42Z")

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It greatly saddens me that there is still enough of an anti-abortion bloc that it must be pandered to. Really, people? I can easily think of 10 topics of much greater importance to the future of this country. Ugh…

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### Author: ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/87 "2007-05-04T22:17:31Z")

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[QUOTE=ShibbOleth]  
What’s the take on Ron Paul? Is the the Republican version of Kucinich, or is he a true free-thinking Republican? I am intrigued by his votes against the war on Iraq and the Patriot Act.  
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Actually, he was the only one I liked of the bunch( but, then, I am a Kucinich fan…hm). If he were to win the nomination (hah!), I would happily vote for him over any one of the Democratic front runners (that’s saying quite a bit as I am very much a leftist). He seemed to be the only one up there thinking for himself.

Honestly, if the Democratic nominee ends up being Edwards or Obama, I would probably vote for Giuliani over either of them ( I seriously dislike Edwards). I have been very impressed by how he is sticking with the pro-choice stance. I am happy to see someone not McCaining—oops…I mean whoring themselves out to the far right.

After hearing a few interviews, I rather liked Huckabee also. Last night, in general…and the evolution thing specifically…totally killed that sentiment.

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### Author: ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/88 "2007-05-04T22:29:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
[Tag Clouds for the Republican Debate](http://www.pollster.com/mystery_pollster/tag_clouds_for_the_republican.php)

I’m not sure that they mean much, but I always find them interesting to look at.  
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Never seen those before. Very cool idea. Practically an art form.

-Joe

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### Author: ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/89 "2007-05-04T23:15:35Z")

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> [@ArizonaTeach](#):
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> Truly, it pales in comparison to the Algonquin-like Shrub, Repugnicans and Faux News, no?

No. But I think what **blazed** was being ribbed about wasn’t simply his use of a lame political insult, but his specifically calling attention to it in a subsequent post to emphasize how witty he thought it was. That’s not just lame, that’s aleph-1 lame.

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### Author: ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/90 "2007-05-05T03:36:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Malodorous]  
FYI: Brownback, Huckabee and Tancredo were the three who raised their hand for not beliving in evolution.

Actually only three out of ten is better then I would’ve thought.  
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This in itself should exclude them from serious consideration for the presidency. In essence, they were identifying themselves as being stupid. Matthews should’ve followed up by asking them if they believed in dinosaurs, or if they believed that the Earth was round.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/91 "2007-05-05T15:41:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Frostillicus]  
This in itself should exclude them from serious consideration for the presidency. In essence, they were identifying themselves as being stupid.  
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Agreed. Nevertheless, it is a bug/feature of democracy that the stupid get to vote. Therefore . . .

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### Author: ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/92 "2007-05-05T16:14:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Aholibah]  
Oops, forgot – family (good).  
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Did they also ask about puppies and apple pie? :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-presidential-debate/402691/93 "2007-05-05T16:27:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Did they also ask about puppies and apple pie? :rolleyes:  
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Puppies really go better with barbecue sauce.

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