# GOP still trending to win Senate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 13, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426 "2014-08-13T10:52:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/281 "2014-08-29T23:11:01Z")
Sorry that I had missed that Wang’s take was already linked to. Agree with **Lance Turbo**. Wang’s track record is not beat by anyone but Wang’s previous comment still holds - this is just a bit outside of the “I just don’t know” range. Early yet. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/282 "2014-08-29T23:56:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > We’re also getting Senators not living in their states and claiming fraudulent addresses as their residencies. > > In a world where Rick Perry can be indicted for a veto, why isn’t Pat Roberts being brought up on vote fraud charges for registering a donor’s address for voting purposes? > > [http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/landrieu-claims-parents-home-as-her-own-raising-questions-of-louisiana-residency/2014/08/28/423d8552-2e08-11e4-9b98-848790384093\_story.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/landrieu-claims-parents-home-as-her-own-raising-questions-of-louisiana-residency/2014/08/28/423d8552-2e08-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html) [Mary Landrieu apparently has the same problem](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/landrieu-claims-parents-home-as-her-own-raising-questions-of-louisiana-residency/2014/08/28/423d8552-2e08-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html). Unfortunately, it isn’t illegal. We have the situation here in California where Congressman Tom McClintock doesn’t live in his district. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/283 "2014-08-30T00:20:18Z")
Landrieu is the subject of the article, but it seemed to me that the throwaway line about Roberts was far more significant. Claiming your parents’ home, the home you grew up in, is plausible. A donors’ home though, and no one’s ever seen you in the neighborhood, geez. Or in Lugar’s case, a home he no longer owned. Is it really legal? Can a person claim any address they want for voting purposes, as long as they just claim one? Because I imagine a lot of voters in uncompetitive states might be interested in that. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/284 "2014-08-30T07:08:03Z")
New Hampshire voters are way too informed to let Jeane Shaheen get away with not holding townhall meetings and claiming it’s “out of state” people who are demanding that she do so: [http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140828/OPINION01/140829039/1004/opinion](http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140828/OPINION01/140829039/1004/opinion) I know the Union Leader is a right-wing paper, but they’ve got it right here. Shaheen is hiding, and she’s been a rubber stamp for the President. She may still be leading in the polls, but Brown’s going to make her work hard for this one. Problem is, she doesn’t look like she’s working for it. I think she’s going down. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/285 "2014-08-30T07:09:49Z")
And geez, did the Kansas race get confusing or what? > **[The Kansas Senate race presents Democrats with an opening — and an awkward...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/08/29/the-kansas-senate-race-presents-democrats-with-an-opening-and-an-awkward-dilemma/)** > > Will Democrats meddle in a three-way race to put pressure on Pat Roberts? The Democrat seems to have no chance but is only 5 points down in the polls. But he also has no money and doesn’t want help from national Democrats. THere’s also an independent in the race who is third, but actually leads Robert in head-to-head polling indicating that getting the Democrat out could result in Robert’s defeat. But the independent won’t say who he’ll caucus with and it really is up in the air because the guy is a centrist who has donated to both parties. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/286 "2014-08-30T15:12:03Z")
Who could imagine they would freak out in Kansas? The Dems only have the least chance to win that race because Sam Brownback’s fanatical devotion to Republican ideology has proven a disaster. Tax cuts have their uses, but will not cure all ills, it is ineffective against neuritis, neuralgia, broken ankles, and that sluggish, run-down feeling. It may not assure a chicken in every pot, but might very well liberate Tyson Foods from pesky food inspectors interfering with vigorous economic growth. If _Salmonella_ could vote, it would most likely vote Republican. Heckuva job, Brownie! But the crazy runs deep in Kansas, so even if Brownback is a disaster in a suit, he will most likely keep his job. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/287 "2014-08-30T15:17:09Z")
As the military question grows in prominence, we can reasonably expect that Republicans will, once again, display their firm and unflinching patriotic support of the Commander in Chief. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/288 "2014-08-30T22:06:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Who could imagine they would freak out in Kansas? > > The Dems only have the least chance to win that race because Sam Brownback’s fanatical devotion to Republican ideology has proven a disaster. Tax cuts have their uses, but will not cure all ills, it is ineffective against neuritis, neuralgia, broken ankles, and that sluggish, run-down feeling. It may not assure a chicken in every pot, but might very well liberate Tyson Foods from pesky food inspectors interfering with vigorous economic growth. If _Salmonella_ could vote, it would most likely vote Republican. > > Heckuva job, Brownie! But the crazy runs deep in Kansas, so even if Brownback is a disaster in a suit, he will most likely keep his job. This is why I prefer candidates govern states before running for President. Brownback is a horrible executive. Now we know that. We didn’t know that the first time he ran for President. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/289 "2014-08-30T22:54:21Z")
But is the horribleness his own personally, or is it the result of implementing essentially all of the current GOP ruling philosophy and policies? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/290 "2014-08-30T22:54:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This is why I prefer candidates govern states before running for President. Brownback is a horrible executive. Now we know that. We didn’t know that the first time he ran for President. But we knew he was batshit crazy. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/291 "2014-08-30T23:05:32Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > This is why I prefer candidates govern states before running for President. Brownback is a horrible executive. Now we know that. We didn’t know that the first time he ran for President. Really? it couldn’t possibly be that Republican policies simply do not work in the real world? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/292 "2014-08-31T04:56:45Z")
Seem to work just fine in most GOP states. It’s only the Democratic ones that are perpetually near bankruptcy and forcing the feds to contemplate a bailout which won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/293 "2014-08-31T13:38:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Seem to work just fine in most GOP states. It’s only the Democratic ones that are perpetually near bankruptcy and forcing the feds to contemplate a bailout which won’t happen. This is not an accurate assessment. Many of the most Republican states, like Mississippi, are also the most poverty-stricken. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/294 "2014-08-31T14:26:31Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s only the Democratic ones that are perpetually near bankruptcy WTF? Er, make that … cite? Note that the Kansas we’ve been discussing is a strong _counter_example. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/295 "2014-08-31T22:38:04Z")
Not to mention: the highest concentration of food stamp recipients are in predominantly white, Republican counties. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/296 "2014-08-31T23:10:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is not an accurate assessment. Many of the most Republican states, like Mississippi, are also the most poverty-stricken. That is not bankruptcy and it’s an acknowledged side effect of Republican policies due to less generous welfare states. Republican states also tend to have less unemployment. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/297 "2014-08-31T23:12:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > WTF? Er, make that … cite? Note that the Kansas we’ve been discussing is a strong _counter_example. Kansas is nowhere near bankruptcy. Republican states, due to low tax policies, do sometimes get into some fiscal distress, but not the kind where they are facing an inability to pay the bills. THat’s because GOP states tend to be low tax, so if you run into trouble, you can just… raise taxes enough to solve the problem. Blue states, by contrast, are often maxed out or near maxed out on revenue, so that raising taxes is not a viable option. These states usually find themselves in the position of having to implement GOP policies just to save their states, ie deep spending cuts. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/298 "2014-08-31T23:13:07Z")
So, no cite? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/299 "2014-08-31T23:28:30Z")
For which claim? If you dispute that only Democratic states ever get near bankruptcy, cite any talk of bailouts or bankruptcy on the part of a red state. You won’t find it. New York, California, Illinois: the Big Three of the Hat in Hand brigade. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/300 "2014-08-31T23:30:15Z")
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