# GOP still trending to win Senate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 13, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426 "2014-08-13T10:52:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/901 "2014-10-22T18:04:24Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Wait until you read the Pit on Nov.5. > > Regards, > Shodan That’s going to be huge fun. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/902 "2014-10-22T18:05:19Z")
Just like the last time the Republicans were going to take over the Senate, huh? 😉 Oh, right, there was no 2012. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/903 "2014-10-22T18:17:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That’s going to be huge fun. Most of us recognize that the Republicans have a better than even chance of winning, so I doubt you’ll see the shock and dismay we got to revel in after election day 2012. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/904 "2014-10-22T19:52:37Z")
Oh, you’d see the dismay all right, if it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/905 "2014-10-22T20:39:17Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That’s going to be huge fun. Except for the millions who will have their misery increased by the GOP’s inept policy positions. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/906 "2014-10-22T21:07:01Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Except for the millions who will have their misery increased by the GOP’s inept policy positions. After every major election, there are many people’s whose misery will be increased. The question is whose. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/907 "2014-10-22T22:33:47Z")
So, if the Republicans DO win the Senate, will that make us a maniocracy or a maniarchy? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/908 "2014-10-22T23:17:36Z")
Gardner’s lead in Colorado is now high enough that it’s not a tossup anymore: [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/co/colorado\_senate\_gardner\_vs\_udall-3845.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/senate/co/colorado_senate_gardner_vs_udall-3845.html) ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/909 "2014-10-22T23:30:44Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Most of us recognize that the Republicans have a better than even chance of winning, so I doubt you’ll see the shock and dismay we got to revel in after election day 2012. I sure thought this thread was a repository of people who did not, in fact, believe this. There were plenty of confident, assured statements about how the GOP takeover would not happen. Were those statements intended to deceive? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/910 "2014-10-22T23:33:23Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I sure thought this thread was a repository of people who did not, in fact, believe this. > > There were plenty of confident, assured statements about how the GOP takeover would not happen. > > Were those statements intended to deceive? I don’t think there have been so many of those statements recently. Not that all hope is lost, but right now it’s about 60-40 that the Republicans will take the Senate, and from what I can tell, most of the posters here accept this likelihood. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/911 "2014-10-22T23:40:59Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I sure thought this thread was a repository of people who did not, in fact, believe this. > > There were plenty of confident, assured statements about how the GOP takeover would not happen. > > Were those statements intended to deceive? There is a difference between the GOP winning the Senate, and it being a good thing for the country. It seems to me, most people here are saying it would be _a bad thing for the country_. Not that it _can’t happen_. It would be a bad thing, because GOP policy is generally goofy-as-fuck. That doesn’t mean it’s _unlikely to happen on election day_, it means that more people will suffer needlessly as the GOP attempts to wreck the government. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/912 "2014-10-22T23:53:59Z")
They could hardly do more in that respect then the President has already done himself. Americans losing confidence in the CDC, that’s something I never thought any President could see happen on his watch. What’s next, Americans losing confidence in Social Security? Hey, don’t laugh, if there was a massive scheme by employees to pocket checks instead of sending them to a few thousand elderly, would the President even know given his management style? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/913 "2014-10-23T00:15:05Z")
Charles Krauthammer said something a few days ago on Fox that I think is very true: Republicans will probably win the Senate, but they are doing a lot worse than they should be doing. If the Republicans weren’t even less popular than the Democrats, we’d be talking about 10-12 seats, not 6-8. They have a lot of work to do from 2015-2016 to prove they can govern. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/914 "2014-10-23T00:23:38Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > There is a difference between the GOP winning the Senate, and it being a good thing for the country. It seems to me, most people here are saying it would be _a bad thing for the country_. Not that it _can’t happen_. > > It would be a bad thing, because GOP policy is generally goofy-as-fuck. That doesn’t mean it’s _unlikely to happen on election day_, it means that more people will suffer needlessly as the GOP attempts to wreck the government. Please evaluate the following post: > [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Frankly, I think the Republicans are counting far too much on the usual “midterm fatigue”. People are _pissed_ at the do-nothing Republicans, and the people who usually stay home for the midterms are going to come out in droves. They probably keep the House, but their majority even with the gerrymandering is likely to shrink. The Senate? Forget about it. > > Oh, the polls, you say? RCP has a huge Repub bias. And they are not fortune tellers. Did any of them predict Cantor getting creamed by a Teabagger? :dubious: Do you regard the words “forget about it” as meaning something other than, “it can’t happen?” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/915 "2014-10-23T00:28:56Z")
Actually, George Will says that with Democrats investing heavily in GOTV efforts, there could be an unpleasant surprise in store for us. If that did happen, then everything I’ve said about 2016 goes out the window. We would be well and truly screwed. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/916 "2014-10-23T00:40:45Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Americans losing confidence in the CDC, that’s something I never thought any President could see happen on his watch. Fox News doesn’t speak for America. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/917 "2014-10-23T00:44:19Z")
Do get out more: > **[Public confidence in CDC nosedives, poll finds](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-confidence-cdc-nosedives-since-ebola/)** > > As Ebola stokes mounting fears across the nation, Americans' faith in agency tasked with stopping it has fallen off a cliff > [@](#): > > Americans’ faith in the agency charged with protecting the homeland from the rapidly escalating Ebola outbreak in West Africa – which has already crept onto U.S. soil – has dropped sharply since the crisis emerged. > > A CBS News Poll has found that positive assessment of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has declined dramatically, with only 37 percent of respondents saying the CDC is doing an excellent or good job – down from 60 percent in a May 2013 Gallup poll. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/918 "2014-10-23T01:00:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Please evaluate the following post: > > Do you regard the words “forget about it” as meaning something other than, “it can’t happen?” I have a question first. Reread my post and tell me, do you see the word “most” in it? If so, what does your response have to do with anything? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/919 "2014-10-23T01:06:21Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I have a question first. Reread my post and tell me, do you see the word “most” in it? > > If so, what does your response have to do with anything? Sure, you said “most.” But I want to understand where you draw the line. If you were to claim that the post I quoted represents “a bad thing for the country,” and not “that it can’t happen,” then I’d know your judgement was based on a virtually unreachable standard. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426/920 "2014-10-23T01:11:06Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Sure, you said “most.” > > But I want to understand where you draw the line. If you were to claim that the post I quoted represents “a bad thing for the country,” and not “that it can’t happen,” then I’d know your judgement was based on a virtually unreachable standard. I would say that the poster you quoted expressed, what I would consider, a high degree of confidence in the Senate flip not happening. I’m glad that we can spend time together parsing things. \<3 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-still-trending-to-win-senate/695426.md?page=47)