# GOP TP wing seems to be doubling down on being even more extreme - Successful long term strategy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 1, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302 "2014-02-01T21:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/21 "2014-02-03T23:27:17Z")
Once again, we must bear in mind that the Tea Party has a limited shelf life and a definite sell-by date. See the [Pew Political Typology.](http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/04/typology-group-profiles/) The TP’s base are the “Staunch Conservatives.” They only make up 9% of the population, and demographically they are the **oldest** of the nine groups, 61% ages 50 and older. And we can be fairly certain they will die off without being replaced by a new generation of “Staunch Conservatives.” Their children and grandchildren might be conservative, but not the way their elders are, because they grew up in a different world – and, life in general having been so rough for Generation X (interesting article on that [here](http://www.salon.com/2013/08/11/generation_x_gets_really_old_how_do_slackers_have_a_midlife_crisis/)), **they** are not likely in future decades to feel nostalgic for the America of their youth. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/22 "2014-02-03T23:30:05Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > They’re terrified of how this country is changing. Gays, an increase of brown immigrants, white people heading toward minority status in much of the country, religions that don’t involve Jesus-- these things are all becoming the norm. The things that they find “comfortable” and “acceptable” and “normal” are, in their minds, being pushed aside, which means their culture, belief system and values are being pushed aside. > > They aren’t acting this way because they’re irrational; they’re doing it because that’s what a scared dog does when it’s cornered-- fights like hell for its own survival. So this isn’t a long-term strategy of the right-wing, it’s a strategy to keep Christian, white, “pro-nuclear family,” cowboy values alive. Things are “different” these days, and it scares the ever-shitting love out of them. > > An America that’s secular, embraces people that aren’t heterosexual, has a big federal government, is full of Spanish speakers and Arabic speakers and Muslims, and is run by someone other than a rich old white man-- well, that’s an America that isn’t worth saving. They’re scratching and clawing for their own cultural survival, as well as for what they think America is supposed to be. Letting Barack Hussein Obama be successful in any manner is a threat to them personally. Every time he succeeds at something (winning an election, winning re-election, passing health reform, killing Bin Laden, reducing government spending, etc), they feel the hammer crack their skull. So hell yeah they’re gonna fight dirty and do some crazy-ass shit. They’re cornered and desperate. > > Here’s [the link to the results of a focus group](http://www.democracycorps.com/attachments/article/954/dcor%20rpp%20fg%20memo%20100313%20final.pdf) (PDF) I found a while ago; it was very eye-opening. Based on my experience living in a very conservative area of a very red state, with TP types in my immediate family and workplace… I’d say that is right on the nose! ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/23 "2014-02-04T12:17:47Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > That’s a nice straw man. Assuming this wasn’t just a drive-by threadshit, I’d also like further explanation of your comment. The article quoted was by a Democratic group, based on focus groups composed of self-identified conservatives and Republicans and includes dozens of direct quotes. So, unless you think they’re just flat-out lying, it’s hard to call it a straw man. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/24 "2014-02-04T17:35:22Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Assuming this wasn’t just a drive-by threadshit, I’d also like further explanation of your comment. The article quoted was by a Democratic group, based on focus groups composed of self-identified conservatives and Republicans and includes dozens of direct quotes. So, unless you think they’re just flat-out lying, it’s hard to call it a straw man. There was no further explanation because “damn, nailed it” is ringing in his head. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/25 "2014-02-04T17:45:58Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > That’s a nice straw man. Wait, you’re not scared of brown people? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/26 "2014-02-04T17:48:20Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Assuming this wasn’t just a drive-by threadshit, I’d also like further explanation of your comment. The article quoted was by a Democratic group, based on focus groups composed of self-identified conservatives and Republicans and includes dozens of direct quotes. So, unless you think they’re just flat-out lying, it’s hard to call it a straw man. The problem I see with it is it’s not a representative sample. It’s a list of quotes of a few of the most extreme opinions, that’s all. Go find a poll. ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/27 "2014-02-04T17:50:54Z")
The fact that republicans are described as homophobic, sexist, and theocratics bothers republicans more than the fact that they finance the execution of homosexuals, have their political shows repeatedly call women whores for no reason, and have large groups that celebrate when Mosques burn down. The extremism is not a problem for republicans, they LIKE the extremism. Their problem is being called on it - which makes it all the more important to call them on their actions. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/28 "2014-02-04T18:20:04Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > The problem I see with it is it’s not a representative sample. It’s a list of quotes of a few of the most extreme opinions, that’s all. Go find a poll. [There have been some.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_party_movement#Composition) > [@](#): > > **Membership and demographics** > > Several polls have been conducted on the demographics of the movement. Though the various polls sometimes turn up slightly different results, they tend to show that Tea Party supporters tend more likely than Americans overall to be white, male, married, older than 45, regularly attending religious services, conservative, and to be more wealthy and have more education.[128][129][130][131][132] > > According to The Atlantic, the three main groups that provide guidance and organization for the protests, FreedomWorks, dontGO, and Americans for Prosperity, state that the demonstrations are an organic movement.[133] Law professor and commentator Glenn Reynolds, best known as author of the Instapundit political blog, argued in the New York Post that: “These aren’t the usual semiprofessional protesters who attend antiwar and pro-union marches. These are people with real jobs; most have never attended a protest march before. They represent a kind of energy that our politics hasn’t seen lately, and an influx of new activists.”[134] Conservative political strategist Tim Phillips, now head of Americans for Prosperity, has remarked that the Republican Party is “too disorganized and unsure of itself to pull this off”.[135] > > The Christian Science Monitor has noted that Tea Party activists “have been called neo-Klansmen and knuckle-dragging hillbillies”, adding that “demonizing tea party activists tends to energize the Democrats’ left-of-center base” and that “polls suggest that tea party activists are not only more mainstream than many critics suggest,”[136] but that a majority of them are women, not angry white men.[136][137][138] The article quoted Juan Williams as saying that the Tea Party’s opposition to health reform was based on self-interest rather than racism.[136] > > A Gallup poll conducted in March 2010 found that—other than gender, income and politics—self-described Tea Party members were demographically similar to the population as a whole.[139] > > When surveying supporters or participants of the Tea Party movement, polls have shown that they are to a very great extent more likely to be registered Republican, have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party and an unfavorable opinion of the Democratic Party.[132][140][141] The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as “born-again Christians”,[142] compared with 75%,[143] 48.5%,[144] and 34%[145] for the general population, respectively. > > According to Susan Page and Naomi Jagoda of USA Today in 2010, the Tea Party was more “a frustrated state of mind” than “a classic political movement”.[146] Tea party members “are more likely to be married and a bit older than the nation as a whole”.[146] They are predominantly white, but other groups make up just under one-fourth of their ranks.[146] They believe that the federal government has become too large and powerful.[146] > > **Polling of supporters** > > An October 2010 Washington Post canvass of local Tea Party organizers found 99% said “concern about the economy” was an “important factor”.[62] Various polls have also probed Tea Party supporters for their views on a variety of political and controversial issues. On the question of whether they think their own income taxes this year are fair, 52% of Tea Party supporters told pollsters for CBS/New York Times that they were, versus 62% in the general population (including Tea Party supporters).[140] A Bloomberg News poll found that Tea Partiers are not against increased government action in all cases. “The ideas that find nearly universal agreement among Tea Party supporters are rather vague,” says J. Ann Selzer, the pollster who created the survey. “You would think any idea that involves more government action would be anathema, and that is just not the case.” > > In advance of a new edition of their book American Grace, political scientists David E. Campbell of Notre Dame and Robert D. Putnam of Harvard published in a The New York Times opinion the results of their research into the political attitudes and background of Tea Party supporters. Using a pre-Tea Party poll in 2006 and going back to the same respondents in 2011, they found the supporters to be not “nonpartisan political neophytes” as often described, but largely “overwhelmingly partisan Republicans” who were politically active prior to the Tea Party. The survey found Tea Party supporters “no more likely than anyone else” to have suffered hardship during the 2007–2010 recession. Additionally, the respondents were more concerned about “putting God in government” than with trying to shrink government.[147][148] > > The 2010 midterm elections demonstrated considerable skepticism within the Tea Party movement with respect to the dangers and the reality of global warming. A New York Times/CBS News Poll during the election revealed that only a small percentage of Tea Party supporters considered global warming a serious problem, much less than the portion of the general public that does. The Tea Party is strongly opposed to government-imposed limits on carbon dioxide emissions as part of emissions trading legislation to encourage use of fuels that emit less carbon dioxide.[149] An example is the movement’s support of California Proposition 23, which would suspend AB32, the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006.[150] The proposition failed to pass, with less than 40% voting in favor.[151] > > Many[quantify] of the movement’s members also favor stricter measures against illegal immigration.[152] > > Polls found that just 7% of Tea Party supporters approve of how Obama is doing his job compared to 50% (as of April 2010) of the general public,[140][needs update] and that roughly 77% of supporters had voted for Obama’s Republican opponent, John McCain in 2008.[131][132] > > A University of Washington poll of 1,695 registered voters in the state of Washington reported that 73% of Tea Party supporters disapprove of Obama’s policy of engaging with Muslim countries, 88% approve of the controversial Arizona immigration law enacted in 2010 that requires police to question people they suspect are illegal immigrants for proof of legal status, 54% feel that immigration is changing the culture in the U.S. for the worse, 82% do not believe that gay and lesbian couples should have the legal right to marry, and that about 52% believe that “[c]ompared to the size of the group, lesbians and gays have too much political power”.[153][154][155] Overall, I’d say the above picture accords pretty well with **Happy’s** assessment. Note especially their concerns with immigration, which, for some reason, is a subject I’ve never seen mentioned in their literature or on their rally-signs; likewise with homosexuals and global warming. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/29 "2014-02-04T18:23:43Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [There have been some.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_party_movement#Composition) > > Overall, I’d say the above picture accords pretty well with **Happy’s** assessment. Well, these all seem to be about Tea Partiers, not Republicans in general. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/30 "2014-02-04T18:25:03Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > The fact that republicans are described as homophobic, sexist, and theocratics bothers republicans more than the fact that they finance the execution of homosexuals, have their political shows repeatedly call women whores for no reason, and have large groups that celebrate when Mosques burn down. The extremism is not a problem for republicans, they LIKE the extremism. Their problem is being called on it - which makes it all the more important to call them on their actions. Every single Republican has financed the execution of homosexuals and called women whores and all that? I hadn’t noticed. Funny, someone on a talk show is probably saying something like “they are described as whores because they are whores.” This game is silly. It’s silly when they do it and it’s silly when we do it. Let’s not do it. ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/31 "2014-02-04T18:31:27Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Every single Republican has financed the execution of homosexuals and called women whores and all that? I hadn’t noticed. No, but they get up in arms when you point it out, rather than fix the problem of the toxicity that is flowing through their party. I’m not going to give people who self-identify in racist groups a pass because _some_ of them aren’t racist. What’s next “I’m not really racist, I just joined the KKK for the togetherness” ? Republicans on this forum have made excuses, distracted, tried to justify, etc, the vile actions. They’re not against those actions - they’re against being called out on them. > [@](#): > > Funny, someone on a talk show is probably saying something like “they are described as whores because they are whores.” You’re right, Rush Limbaugh says that, because he IS a wanna-be rapist who has no respect for women yet has tons of followers amoung republicans. I wonder why that is? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/32 "2014-02-04T18:51:29Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > No, but they get up in arms when you point it out, rather than fix the problem of the toxicity that is flowing through their party. Wait, so now you’re admitting they don’t, AND trying to blame them for pointing out that you’re making unfair accusations against them. > [@](#): > > I’m not going to give people who self-identify in racist groups a pass because _some_ of them aren’t racist. What’s next “I’m not really racist, I just joined the KKK for the togetherness” ? The Republican party isn’t a “racist group.” But you’ll try to use the same failed logic to argue that it is, I suppose. The irony is that you’re using the same logic racists use to be racist. Your victim is Republicans instead of blacks. > [@](#): > > Republicans on this forum have made excuses, distracted, tried to justify, etc, the vile actions. They’re not against those actions - they’re against being called out on them. All Republicans have? And Republicans on this forum represent all Republicans in the universe? > [@](#): > > You’re right, Rush Limbaugh says that, because he IS a wanna-be rapist who has no respect for women yet has tons of followers amoung republicans. I wonder why that is? Obviously all Republicans are therefore wannabe rapists, since some of them “follow” someone who is a wannabe rapist. Impeccable logic. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/33 "2014-02-04T19:01:45Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Well, these all seem to be about Tea Partiers, not Republicans in general. That’s what this thread’s about-- the extremists, the TPers, the people doing the things that make everyone else either scratch their heads in bewilderment or gnash their teeth in fury. I’m convinced the extremists who are doing and saying those things that make no sense politically don’t give a flying fig about politics. They-- whether they hold elected office or not-- are \*not \*politicians. They don’t care about polls or trends or common sense. They’re cultural warriors, trying to save a culture, value set and God-given national ideal that they see as being actively destroyed by the likes of Barack Obama, a godless media, welfare queens, globalization, fags and foreigners. They will do whatever it takes to save themselves and their children from this filth-- nation and economy and everyone else be damned. A threatened dog doesn’t reason its way to safety. ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/34 "2014-02-04T19:07:56Z")
lance, please stop trying to portray any sort of criticism of people who burn down Mosques as equivalent to anti-black racism. When you can stop acting so wildly aggressive and rude about it, then I will have a debate with you. Until then, I am perfectly happy to say that people who make excuses for those that call women whores for fun and burn down mosques for fun are bad people. If you want to disagree, take me to the pit. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/35 "2014-02-04T19:48:59Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Well, these all seem to be about Tea Partiers, not Republicans in general. **Happy** was talking about Tea Partiers, not Republicans in general. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/36 "2014-02-04T19:52:33Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > The Republican party isn’t a “racist group.” No, it isn’t. But it does seem to be where most white American racists who vote ended up after they left the Dems in the '60s and '70s. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/37 "2014-02-04T20:46:47Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > lance, please stop trying to portray any sort of criticism of people who burn down Mosques as equivalent to anti-black racism. I didn’t portray “any” sort of criticism. Nor was I talking asbout people who burn down mosques. To say that ALL Republicans approve of burning down mosques just because a few do is what I’m talking about. That’s the same logic as racists use. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/38 "2014-02-04T20:48:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, it isn’t. But it does seem to be where most white American racists who vote ended up after they left the Dems in the '60s and '70s. Yes, but again, the whole is not the same as the part. Let’s just condemn racism. And it’s fair to condemn party leaders who tolerate it, if they do. But to argue that all Republicans are racist, or the GOP is a racist group, because there are racist Republicans is completely unfair and pointless. ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/39 "2014-02-04T20:49:39Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I didn’t portray “any” sort of criticism. Nor was I talking asbout people who burn down mosques. > > To say that ALL Republicans approve of burning down mosques just because a few do is what I’m talking about. That’s the same logic as racists use. Honest question; In your opinion, approximately what percentage of Republicans actively oppose burning down mosques? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302/40 "2014-02-04T20:50:10Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > Republicans on this forum have made excuses, distracted, tried to justify, etc, the vile actions. They’re not against those actions - they’re against being called out on them. All of them? Why can’t you stop generalizing? At least we know you’re just talking about this forum. That’s progress. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gop-tp-wing-seems-to-be-doubling-down-on-being-even-more-extreme-successful-long-term-strategy/680302.md?page=3)