GOP TP wing seems to be doubling down on being even more extreme - Successful long term strategy?

Once again, we must bear in mind that the Tea Party has a limited shelf life and a definite sell-by date. See the Pew Political Typology. The TP’s base are the “Staunch Conservatives.” They only make up 9% of the population, and demographically they are the oldest of the nine groups, 61% ages 50 and older.

And we can be fairly certain they will die off without being replaced by a new generation of “Staunch Conservatives.” Their children and grandchildren might be conservative, but not the way their elders are, because they grew up in a different world – and, life in general having been so rough for Generation X (interesting article on that here), they are not likely in future decades to feel nostalgic for the America of their youth.

Based on my experience living in a very conservative area of a very red state, with TP types in my immediate family and workplace… I’d say that is right on the nose!

Assuming this wasn’t just a drive-by threadshit, I’d also like further explanation of your comment. The article quoted was by a Democratic group, based on focus groups composed of self-identified conservatives and Republicans and includes dozens of direct quotes. So, unless you think they’re just flat-out lying, it’s hard to call it a straw man.

There was no further explanation because “damn, nailed it” is ringing in his head.

Wait, you’re not scared of brown people?

The problem I see with it is it’s not a representative sample. It’s a list of quotes of a few of the most extreme opinions, that’s all. Go find a poll.

The fact that republicans are described as homophobic, sexist, and theocratics bothers republicans more than the fact that they finance the execution of homosexuals, have their political shows repeatedly call women whores for no reason, and have large groups that celebrate when Mosques burn down. The extremism is not a problem for republicans, they LIKE the extremism. Their problem is being called on it - which makes it all the more important to call them on their actions.

There have been some.

Overall, I’d say the above picture accords pretty well with Happy’s assessment. Note especially their concerns with immigration, which, for some reason, is a subject I’ve never seen mentioned in their literature or on their rally-signs; likewise with homosexuals and global warming.

Well, these all seem to be about Tea Partiers, not Republicans in general.

Every single Republican has financed the execution of homosexuals and called women whores and all that? I hadn’t noticed.

Funny, someone on a talk show is probably saying something like “they are described as whores because they are whores.”

This game is silly. It’s silly when they do it and it’s silly when we do it. Let’s not do it.

No, but they get up in arms when you point it out, rather than fix the problem of the toxicity that is flowing through their party. I’m not going to give people who self-identify in racist groups a pass because some of them aren’t racist. What’s next “I’m not really racist, I just joined the KKK for the togetherness” ?

Republicans on this forum have made excuses, distracted, tried to justify, etc, the vile actions. They’re not against those actions - they’re against being called out on them.

You’re right, Rush Limbaugh says that, because he IS a wanna-be rapist who has no respect for women yet has tons of followers amoung republicans. I wonder why that is?

Wait, so now you’re admitting they don’t, AND trying to blame them for pointing out that you’re making unfair accusations against them.

The Republican party isn’t a “racist group.” But you’ll try to use the same failed logic to argue that it is, I suppose.

The irony is that you’re using the same logic racists use to be racist. Your victim is Republicans instead of blacks.

All Republicans have? And Republicans on this forum represent all Republicans in the universe?

Obviously all Republicans are therefore wannabe rapists, since some of them “follow” someone who is a wannabe rapist. Impeccable logic.

That’s what this thread’s about-- the extremists, the TPers, the people doing the things that make everyone else either scratch their heads in bewilderment or gnash their teeth in fury.

I’m convinced the extremists who are doing and saying those things that make no sense politically don’t give a flying fig about politics. They-- whether they hold elected office or not-- are *not *politicians. They don’t care about polls or trends or common sense. They’re cultural warriors, trying to save a culture, value set and God-given national ideal that they see as being actively destroyed by the likes of Barack Obama, a godless media, welfare queens, globalization, fags and foreigners.

They will do whatever it takes to save themselves and their children from this filth-- nation and economy and everyone else be damned. A threatened dog doesn’t reason its way to safety.

lance, please stop trying to portray any sort of criticism of people who burn down Mosques as equivalent to anti-black racism. When you can stop acting so wildly aggressive and rude about it, then I will have a debate with you.

Until then, I am perfectly happy to say that people who make excuses for those that call women whores for fun and burn down mosques for fun are bad people. If you want to disagree, take me to the pit.

Happy was talking about Tea Partiers, not Republicans in general.

No, it isn’t. But it does seem to be where most white American racists who vote ended up after they left the Dems in the '60s and '70s.

I didn’t portray “any” sort of criticism. Nor was I talking asbout people who burn down mosques.

To say that ALL Republicans approve of burning down mosques just because a few do is what I’m talking about. That’s the same logic as racists use.

Yes, but again, the whole is not the same as the part.

Let’s just condemn racism. And it’s fair to condemn party leaders who tolerate it, if they do. But to argue that all Republicans are racist, or the GOP is a racist group, because there are racist Republicans is completely unfair and pointless.

Honest question; In your opinion, approximately what percentage of Republicans actively oppose burning down mosques?

All of them?

Why can’t you stop generalizing?

At least we know you’re just talking about this forum. That’s progress.