# Gorilla vs. Grizzly Bear

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 29, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091 "2005-09-29T20:48:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/1 "2005-09-29T20:48:37Z")

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I have not done a “animal vs. animal” thread in a while. I know they would never encounter each other in their natural setting, but I still wonder which animal would prevail in a fight. Which beast would win such a conflict and why?

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**Author:** ![jawdirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jawdirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jawdirk)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/2 "2005-09-29T21:14:49Z")

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My WAG: Assuming an unrealistic fight to the death, Bear wins. Gorillas are strong, but brown bears are strong, outway the gorilla and can take more punishment. Fingers lose to claws.

But if there are trees in the arena, then the gorilla climbs into a tree where he has the advantage, and it’s a standoff.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/3 "2005-09-29T21:16:14Z")

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A Grizzly bear can grow to about 850 pounds.  
A gorilla grows to about 500 pounds.

The bear takes it

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/4 "2005-09-29T21:19:02Z")

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Gorilla is about 500 pounds  
Grizzly bear is about 850 pounds  
Polar bear is 1300 pounds

The bears have a clear advantage here

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/5 "2005-09-29T21:20:45Z")

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> [@Taber](#):
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> Gorilla is about 500 pounds  
> Grizzly bear is about 850 pounds  
> Polar bear is 1300 pounds
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> The bears have a clear advantage here

oops double post, and didn’t notice the OP specified Grizzly :smack:

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**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/6 "2005-09-29T21:22:15Z")

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> [@Taber](#):
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> Gorilla is about 500 pounds  
> Grizzly bear is about 850 pounds  
> Polar bear is 1300 pounds
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> The bears have a clear advantage here

Gorilla with rocket launcher is about 530 pounds

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/7 "2005-09-29T21:30:06Z")

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[gorilla wins by a longshot](http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=gorilla&word2=grizzley+bear)

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/8 "2005-09-29T21:31:27Z")

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Although the bear does better if I spell “grizzly” correctly. :smack:

[http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en\_GB&word1=gorilla&word2=grizzly+bear](http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=gorilla&word2=grizzly+bear)

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/9 "2005-09-29T21:32:15Z")

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Rocket launchers are too obvious for gorilla warfare. They tend to prefer claymore mines with a trip-wire detonator. An easy kill should a grizzly swagger into the target zone.

I wonder if you could teach a gorilla to fight. I would think they would have sufficient strength to break a bear’s leg or neck. They’re a bit smarter than a bear too, I reckon. So they could probably figure out a way to get the bear to … um … uh … disembowel itself?

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**Author:** ![Mdr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@Mdr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mdr)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/10 "2005-09-29T21:43:30Z")

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i’m totally going gorilla here, he may weigh less but he’s more agile. Remember, Hulk Hogan was way bigger than the Macho Man and yet the Macho Man would beat him at times too, so there’s my logic.

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**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/11 "2005-09-29T21:55:38Z")

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[Gorilla vs. Grizzly](http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=gorilla&word2=grizzly) (not “Grizzly Bear”) is closer.

However, [Gorilla vs. Bear](http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=gorilla&word2=bear) goes the other way, bigtime.

[Gorilla vs. Black Bear](http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=gorilla&word2=black+bear) still goes to the ursine.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/12 "2005-09-29T22:06:52Z")

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You keep using Googlefight. I do not think it does what you think it does.

pit a mouse against … well…anything.

I’m thinking the “winner” is the one with the most hitson Google. Popularity is no way to predict a fight young one.

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**Author:** ![jawdirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jawdirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jawdirk)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/13 "2005-09-29T22:11:53Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> You keep using Googlefight. I do not think it does what you think it does.
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> pit a mouse against … well…anything.
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> I’m thinking the “winner” is the one with the most hitson Google. Popularity is no way to predict a fight young one.

Let’s settle this. [Fight](http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Googlefight&word2=Inigo+Montoya)!

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/14 "2005-09-29T22:13:12Z")

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> [@Mdr](#):
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> i’m totally going gorilla here, he may weigh less but he’s more agile. Remember, Hulk Hogan was way bigger than the Macho Man and yet the Macho Man would beat him at times too, so there’s my logic.

Thank og for reasoned arguments! 😉

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/15 "2005-09-29T22:13:57Z")

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yeah…it’s all wrong. See?

Paper beats Scissors  
Orc beats Aragorn  
William J Clinton beats George H W Bush

bogus

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/16 "2005-09-29T22:15:23Z")

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Well said, Inigo.

I say definatly the bear, mainly because gorrilla are just not very agressive creatures. They’re all talk. Well, actually all hooting and chest pounding but same thing. Unless the hooting scares the bear off they really don’t have any other moves.

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**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/17 "2005-09-29T22:17:42Z")

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Da Bears!

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/18 "2005-09-29T23:40:19Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> Da Bears!

Crap. Beat me to it. I was going to ask if the Bears had Ditka.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/19 "2005-09-29T23:47:00Z")

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Grizzly bear size varies by location. Generally speaking it depends on the amount of food available; more food leads to bigger bears. In Katmai National Park in Alaska, where the bears feast on the enormous salmon runs, weights can exceed one thousand pounds.

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gorilla-vs-grizzly-bear/324091/20 "2005-09-30T00:02:45Z")

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Okay, grizzly beats normal gorilla.

But what if it’s a special gorilla?

What if that gorilla…is a black belt in judo – _and_ karate?

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