# Got Cheese?  You really should, just in case.  (Long and Mild)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 7, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224 "2009-01-07T14:45:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sami41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sami41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sami41)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/21 "2009-01-07T18:00:21Z")

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> [@Necros](#):
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> Here is a pic of a 2001 Saturn door panel: [http://www.bodyshopzone.com/archives/trim/door\_panels/Saturn/S\_2001/dpgsts06a\_saturn\_s.jpg](http://www.bodyshopzone.com/archives/trim/door_panels/Saturn/S_2001/dpgsts06a_saturn_s.jpg) Yours is probably similar.  
> Right above the actual handle is the door lock thing. It rotates around around a pivot, and can absolutely be operated manually.  
> Edit: Clifford is an alarm company, and that light was part of the alarm system. 🙂

Holy Cow. You’re absolutely right! I wonder how I drove this car for a year without noticing that.:smack: Then again, I didn’t lock the car for most of that time. So that solves one problem, hopefully. Thanks!

And you explained the Clifford light. It must have been disabled, though, because I didn’t have an alarm on it. But, I bought that one used as well. Thanks again.

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**Author:** ![Sami41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sami41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sami41)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/22 "2009-01-07T18:08:16Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> :smack: Yeah, I hate to break it to you, **Sam** , but I’ve got (two, technically, but only custody of one) '98 Saturns, and they both have a physical lock on the inside that can be undone even if the alternator’s dead and you have no electricity at all. Ask me how I know.
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> I feel positively lucky. The only major foible of my gold beauty is that you can’t not set the alarm. Even if you don’t lock the doors when you leave, the alarm sets after some indeterminate and flexible amount of time - could be 20 seconds, could be 3 minutes. This even counts if you get somewhere, turn off the engine and then sit\* in\* your car (looking for the lost sippy cup, the coupons or just listening to the last of The Wall on the ipod) for a minute. Do you know how embarrassing it is to be at a campground and have your car alarm go off when you get OUT of your car? Kill me now.
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> On the other hand, I always know exactly how long I’ve been sitting in the waiting room before the mechanic even starts looking at my car. No matter how many times I tell them you \*have \*to use the clicker, I hear the alarm go off when they open the door to pop the hood! 😃

I could see that being annoying/embarassing. I have a friend whose alarm goes off for 2 or 3 seconds everytime he turns it off. But if he doesn’t turn it off 1st, than it _really_goes off, locks the doors, kills the ignition, all that business. It drives him insane.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/23 "2009-01-07T18:12:13Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> Next time, call me. I have plenty of cheese, and I deliver.

Well, eh, how about a little red Leicester?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/24 "2009-01-07T21:29:15Z")

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> [@Sami41](#):
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> It called for 3 cups of shredded cheddar cheese, of which I had approximately no cups.

I’m sorry for your troubles, but this made me smile. So does most talk of cheese, but this was extra-special.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/25 "2009-01-07T21:55:04Z")

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First you’re too hot in the car. Then you’re too cold. What a complainer. ;)😃

**Sami41** , I take it that you live in a jurisdiction that doesn’t require periodic automobile inspections?

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**Author:** ![Hogwash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@Hogwash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogwash)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/26 "2009-01-07T21:56:36Z")

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Long, mild cheese is my favourite kind.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/27 "2009-01-07T22:01:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, eh, how about a little red Leicester?

How about a little Wensleydale? 🙂

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/28 "2009-01-07T22:11:04Z")

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All things being considered, your thread seems to belong in MPSIMS. I’ll move it for you.

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**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/29 "2009-01-07T22:18:52Z")

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And to think I thought \*my \*first car sucked! (It was held together largely by rust; if you slammed the door bits of it would fall off. It went through 4 litres - an engine’s worth - of oil per week.)

Beautifully crafted story, \*\*Sami41 \*\*- brought back a lot of memories and gave me something new to laugh about, too. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/30 "2009-01-07T22:57:53Z")

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Named cars -  
In high school, my sister drove a beater Suburban, with over 200k miles on it, and on it’s third engine. She named is Chuck.

Why Chuck, you might ask? No, none of her boyfriends were named Chuck. It was so, when trying to get out of the very steep driveway, in March, with lots of snow, she could yell “UP CHUCK”.

Gotta love high school humor.

At least you could check road conditions without opening the door. Just look through the rusted holes in the floor.

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**Author:** ![Sami41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sami41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sami41)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/31 "2009-01-08T00:49:00Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> First you’re too hot in the car. Then you’re too cold. What a complainer. ;)😃
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> **Sami41** , I take it that you live in a jurisdiction that doesn’t require periodic automobile inspections?

Mechanically, except for the dead battery, it’s fine. Passed the smog inspection with flying colors. It’s just the electrical system that doesn’t pass muster.

> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> All things being considered, your thread seems to belong in MPSIMS. I’ll move it for you.

Yeah, I almost put it here in the first place. I started writing it as a Pit thread, so that’s where I put it, but I generally just don’t have the anger for the Pit. I suppose that’s good. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/32 "2009-01-08T03:11:02Z")

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But what’s the recipe?

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**Author:** ![Sami41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sami41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sami41)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/33 "2009-01-08T03:20:11Z")

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Cheeseburger Meatloaf. It’s, I suppose a standard meatloaf recipe. Then you roll the meat out, layer the cheese on top and roll it up, so that the cheese is in every bite. It wasn’t great, wasn’t terrible, but probably not worth all the trouble.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/34 "2009-01-08T04:09:20Z")

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Darn. I was all excited after the first sentence (I love meatloaf), but then the last sentence was a letdown. ☹

Maybe if I added bacon to it… _ponders_

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**Author:** ![Across](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Across](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Across)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/35 "2009-01-08T04:49:49Z")

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Reminds me of the first car my parents bought me. While it had no rust when we bought it, it must have been kept undercover and had long since lost its rustproofing. It rapidly rusted though just above the rear window (among other places). Eventually, this led to water leaking _into_ the roof. A lot of water. SO much water that when I braked I could hear the gentle _slosh_ of the water running forward and then the gentle _slosh_ of it rolling back again when I accelerated, sometimes accompanied by rusty water pouring down the back window. Naturally, this buggered up the overhead light which had some kind of domino effect screwing up the rest of the cars electricals.  
I love that car. I called it The Tank, cos it was big and green and couldn’t steer worth a damn.

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**Author:** ![Jaglavak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jaglavak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaglavak)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/got-cheese-you-really-should-just-in-case-long-and-mild/480224/36 "2009-01-09T21:19:07Z")

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My '06 Focus has door locks that are electrically activated. The key lock on the door handle is only an electrical switch with no mechanical link to the actual lock mechanism. And of course the hood latch needs to be released from inside the car.

You can see where this is headed. If I let the battery die just once, I will have to break a window to get in, so I can unlatch the hood, so I can jump the battery. All that so they could save $1.39 on a peice of bent metal inside the stinkin door. I’m planning to install a couple of lugs under the grill so I can jump the battery without all that.

The other unique feature is the ‘security’ system. When you turn off the engine, a blinking red light comes on in the dash to indicate that the security system is armed. Reading through the owner’s manual revealed that the security system consists of… a blinking red light. Gotta love it.

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