# "Gotcha ya!" video from the conservative noise machine seeks to make NPR look bad

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 8, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960 "2011-03-08T19:47:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/41 "2011-03-09T03:26:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Rock solid assertion, firmly grounded in insinuation and buttressed by innuendo, **Starkers** wrongfully accuses liberals of racism.
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> Followed by this gem.
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> The SDMB Unintentional Iromy of the Year for 2011 Award nominations are now closed. There is no further point in accepting nominations.

Unless it’s your contention that no racist liberals exist - which of course would be ridiculous -there is nothing in the least ironic about my post nor inaccurate about my assertion. (Hint: I know some myself. Very high-toned and indignant about racism, until one of their family members sleeps with a black guy. Or the daughter of another dates only black guys. Or the elderly one who has voted Democrat and in favor of liberal social programs all her life but invariably regards black people as the word that shall not be spoken. Or when…well, you get the idea.)

The fact of the matter is that there are racists in every group of human beings that exists and liberals are no exception.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/42 "2011-03-09T03:34:43Z")

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Good lord, top executives at NPR are liberals!!??

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k\_ME](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME)

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/43 "2011-03-09T03:42:44Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Obviously, you haven’t been around here long enough to remember poster **Wildest Bill** , ya wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper, ya.

Ah, that’s too funny!

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/44 "2011-03-09T03:50:25Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> I have nothing but utter contempt for this human paraquat

O’Keefe is a herbicide? 😕

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/45 "2011-03-09T03:50:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> How many lives has he ruined?

He at least damaged quite a few with his smearing of ACORN. A lot of peopel lost their livelihoods because of that smirking little tool’s proven libel.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/46 "2011-03-09T04:42:57Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Good lord, top executives at NPR are liberals!!??
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k\_ME](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME)

Sure, why wouldn’t they be? And why shouldn’t they be? If there were ever a job for a liberal, non-commercial journalism is **it.**

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/47 "2011-03-09T04:48:23Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Imagine Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.

A bley bley bley sque…sque…scream like a pig, bitch.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/48 "2011-03-09T05:17:27Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> O’Keefe is a herbicide? 😕

Obviously you’re not a [golfer](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=human+paraquat).  
😃

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/49 "2011-03-09T07:04:21Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Hoodwinked him into admitting the truth, eh? Well, I suppose that’s… something.

[QUOTE=CJ Cregg]  
'Cause it’s the classic Washington scandal. We screwed up by telling the truth.  
[/QUOTE]

To which Josh Lyman replies: Yeah, lets try not to do that too much.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/50 "2011-03-09T08:33:57Z")

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So here I am, a clean-cut, 33 year old, white guy who _frequently_ wears collared shirts just wasting - wasting! - my ability to pass as a conservative. No need for me to keep that up. So give me some ideas here. How can I pull off the same thing - getting prominent conservatives, or at least conservatives that I can stretch to associate with prominent institutions, to say embarrassing things on camera? Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/51 "2011-03-09T08:45:37Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Every television news site and news magazines like 60 Minutes, 20/20, etc. do this routinely and they always have.

SA that is not at all what any reputable news organization does. I think there is an ocean of difference between what this young man does and what 20/20 or 60 minutes does today.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/52 "2011-03-09T08:49:02Z")

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> [@Do Not Taunt](#):
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> So here I am, a clean-cut, 33 year old, white guy who frequently wears collared shirts just wasting - wasting! - my ability to pass as a conservative. No need for me to keep that up. So give me some ideas here. How can I pull off the same thing - getting prominent conservatives, or at least conservatives that I can stretch to associate with prominent institutions, to say embarrassing things on camera? Any ideas?

I think you’ll have a harder time than you think finding conservatives to make racist and hateful comments because not many of them actually think that was. The idea that you can is likely a result of too much Kool-Aid. A better idea would be to get some liberals and talk them into get haircuts and dressing nicely (this may be difficult but maybe you can offer them some money), get them to make racist and/or hateful statements about poor people, and then just pass them off as conservatives. Simply by being here you’re awash in liberal lies already, so you know they can do it.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/53 "2011-03-09T08:52:54Z")

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> [@Oliveritaly](#):
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> SA that is not at all what any reputable news organization does. I think there is an ocean of difference between what this young man does and what 20/20 or 60 minutes does today.

What I was talking about is the practice of editing lengthy interviews or comments and then airing only parts of them. Everybody in the news and television magazine business does it.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/54 "2011-03-09T09:04:32Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I think you’ll have a harder time than you think finding conservatives to make racist and hateful comments because not many of them actually think that was. The idea that you can is likely a result of too much Kool-Aid. A better idea would be to get some liberals and talk them into get haircuts and dressing nicely (this may be difficult but maybe you can offer them some money), get them to make racist and/or hateful statements about poor people, and then just pass them off as conservatives. Simply by being here you’re awash in liberal lies already, so you know they can do it.

I’m intrigued that while I said ‘embarrassing things’ you immediately jumped to ‘racist and hateful comments..’

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/55 "2011-03-09T09:14:06Z")

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Why not? Accusations of conservative racism and hatred for the “little guy” is about all you guys ever have. On the field of ideas you guys can’t compete, so you’ve adopted the strategy of whipping up hatred for the other side to advance your agenda. This tactic has been S.O.P for the left for decades. Where’ve you been?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/56 "2011-03-09T09:36:37Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> … get some liberals and talk them into get haircuts and dressing nicely …

:dubious: When the temporal police catch up with you . . . you’re fucked.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/57 "2011-03-09T10:01:48Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> What I was talking about is the practice of editing lengthy interviews or comments and then airing only parts of them. Everybody in the news and television magazine business does it.

Ahh sorry I misunderstood your original statement, my apologies.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/58 "2011-03-09T10:08:00Z")

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No problem at all. Thanks. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/59 "2011-03-09T10:40:10Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> While it may be a bit of hyperbole, his actions led to the defunding of ACORN, which was later cleared of any wrongdoing - of course after they had been forced to shut down. My argument is that O’Keefe’s dishonest behavior directly affected ACORN staffers as well as those that the groups for which it advocated.

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It was cleared of any criminal acts, which is not the same as “wrongdoing”, especially wrt receiving federal funds.

> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Please enlighten me **John** - why did they lose their funding?

Their own internal investigation revealed numerous organizaional, management, and technical controls problems in thier processes.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gotcha-ya-video-from-the-conservative-noise-machine-seeks-to-make-npr-look-bad/573960/60 "2011-03-09T10:44:31Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> On the field of ideas you guys can’t compete, so you’ve adopted the strategy of whipping up hatred for the other side to advance your agenda.

Oh my, this couldn’t possibly be further from the truth. I’ve got an idea here, just spitballing; are you up for a challenge? How about you listen to one hour of Morning Edition and one hour of All Things Considered on NPR and one of of us durned libruls spend an hour listening to Rush Limbaugh and another hour listening to Glenn Beck. Whichever side can produce more examples of “whipping up hatred for the other side” wins. How bout it?

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