# Gov. DeSantis signs bill that strikes climate change from Florida Law

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**Created:** [May 16, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649 "2024-05-16T20:35:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/21 "2024-05-25T20:32:29Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The sea isn’t rising, Florida is sinking.

America’s penis grows flaccid.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/22 "2024-05-25T20:55:40Z")

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And soon it will disappear entirely. Would that count as the country getting gender-affirming surgery? 😁

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/23 "2024-05-25T21:24:50Z")

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I think declaring climate change illegal is a very wise move. It solves all kind of problems in one fell swoop. It is as wise as defining π as three, as [the Master taught us](https://www.straightdope.com/21341975/did-a-state-legislature-once-pass-a-law-saying-pi-equals-3), and will ensure his place (DeSantis’ place, that is) in the history books. Win-win-win-tired of winning.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/24 "2024-05-25T23:00:05Z")

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DeSantis should have his minions carry him down to the seashore, from where he can deny the ocean permission to rise anymore. This should solve the problem.

(Yes, I know the story of Canute was to demonstrate that his flattering toadies were wrong, but let me have this one)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/25 "2024-05-26T00:41:42Z")

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Perhaps they could just keep marching into the sea and not stop.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/26 "2024-05-26T18:28:58Z")

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Obligatory [Eric the Viking clip](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=35b2ac92d41e214b&udm=7&sxsrf=ADLYWIJomJt1kWjwcUQ8nidhYS76teaKmw:1716747741963&q=eric+the+viking+atlantis+sinks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj8ltDa96uGAxV448kDHXrkC14Q8ccDegQIEhAH&biw=1115&bih=1044&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:be4e6345,vid:rY-HOYTz-rs,st:0).

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/27 "2024-05-27T00:26:38Z")

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When the economy of your entire state utterly depends on sea level not rising, it can be tempting to ignore unpleasant realities.

DeSantis is an evil bastard to his very core. No doubt there.

But “pretend and extend” is how _every_ coastal state will deal with the reality of the slow motion ginormous disaster that becomes unignorable 25-50 years from now.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/28 "2024-06-13T05:36:43Z")

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It’s extremely fortunate that under Florida law, climate change is now illegal. 🙄

> **[Heavy rain and ‘life-threatening flooding’ hit South Florida, prompting the...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/weather/florida-flooding-hurricane-season-climate/index.html)**
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> Parts of South Florida face dangerous flooding Wednesday amid repeated bouts of torrential rain that filled neighborhoods and roadways with rising waters and prompted the state’s governor to declare an emergency.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/29 "2024-06-13T05:58:50Z")

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That doesn’t count. It’s coming down, not going up. So there, Smarty-Pants!

Blah Blah Blah, Can’t hear you!!!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/30 "2024-06-13T08:48:27Z")

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I actually heard on the news tonight that the water is doing both. Coming down, and coming up. They had a name for it, but I wasn’t taking notes or anything.  
I wonder how difficult it is for DeSantis to keep his head in the sand with the sand under water.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/31 "2024-06-13T11:35:13Z")

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Just to be perfectly clear about the climate change angle:

- Sea level is incontrovertibly rising due to both melting land ice and expansion due to warmer seawater temperatures, and Florida is exceptionally vulnerable due to much of the state being barely above sea level

- This particular flooding has nothing to do with sea level rise but is due to unusually heavy rains

- No specific weather event can be definitively linked to climate change, **but** it can be said (and has been confirmed by climate models) that extreme weather events like excessive precipitation, changes in regional climate, record-breaking heat waves, and stronger hurricanes in the north Atlantic basin are **typical** and **expected** effects of climate change.

Simply put, on a probabilistic scale south Florida is likely being attacked by the Thing Whose Name Must Not Be Spoken according to the wisdom of DeSantis, not for the first time and certainly not the last.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/32 "2024-06-13T12:02:19Z")

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The trouble with idiots being in charge is that nobody seems to realize the damage they’re doing until it’s far too late. Even benign idiots can wreak untold havoc, but unless it personally affects someone’s first world comforts, nothing changes.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/33 "2024-06-13T14:40:59Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Even benign idiots can wreak untold havoc, but unless it personally affects someone’s first world comforts, nothing changes.

That’s unfortunately describing human nature.

Though that’s why you want people in charge who try to be better than that.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/34 "2024-06-13T15:16:58Z")

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I think Lord Acton had it right.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/35 "2024-06-14T03:09:52Z")

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Seems obscure enough to be considered esoteric. A little jog to my memory, please and thank you?

ETA: Wait, was he the “never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity” guy? If so, then never mind.

ETA2 Electric Boogaloo: OTOH, Lord Acton was erring on the side of kindness. Malicious idiocy exists, as does the benign sort. Recognition of which type we’re seeing is a useful skill.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/36 "2024-06-14T03:28:56Z")

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Meanwhile, Florida’s Congressional delegation is hard at work on the issues that matter to the state;

> <https://x.com/RepGregSteube/status/1801366795611226543>

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/37 "2024-06-14T03:30:39Z")

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Or DJ Teez for short.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/38 "2024-06-14T03:31:41Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Fuck this asshole already. He shouldn’t be in office, he should be in prison. Florida, probably the US State at greatest risk from Climate Change and he is trying hard to ignore for ? reasons? What the Hell?

Currently, his voters are being eaten by Alligators and most of Florida is underwater.

Soon I expect a bill that makes Pi = 3.0.

> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> We don’t have wind turbines because the only time Florida gets enough wind to make them worthwhile,

The stats say elsewise-  
[https://climatecenter.fsu.edu/products-services/data/other-normals/average-wind-speed](https://climatecenter.fsu.edu/products-services/data/other-normals/average-wind-speed)

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> But “pretend and extend” is how _every_ coastal state will deal with the reality of the slow motion ginormous disaster that becomes unignorable 25-50 years from now.

California is actually doing stuff. So is Washington & Oregon. Just the Red states are ignoring it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/39 "2024-06-14T03:45:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Meanwhile, Florida’s Congressional delegation is hard at work on the issues that matter to the state;

Is a polluted swamp not far from the shore considered a “coastal water”? Because I’d be okay with calling that “Trump Swamp” or “Traitor Bog” in his honor.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gov-desantis-signs-bill-that-strikes-climate-change-from-florida-law/1001649/40 "2024-06-14T12:01:12Z")

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His best known was: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

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