# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/201 "2011-02-22T01:48:18Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > In the interest of fighting ignorance, as funny as the names like “Koch Suckers” are, the name is pronounced “coke”, not “cock”. So they are coke suckers? I actually believe that more than I believe cock suckers. I think they actually prefer that their cocks be sucked and it seems to be working for them. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/202 "2011-02-22T01:50:08Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > …Walker is going to be triumphant. If he’s not I’ll gladly come back here and eat crow. Better make up your mind between baked, broiled, stewed, or fricasséed. And does one serve red or white wine with a black bird? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/203 "2011-02-22T01:53:01Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > The union was weak, ineffectual, and greedy. I paid just shy of $1000 a year for next to nothing. The administration bullied us at will, the union did little to stop it, and was overall not instrumental in the pay scale. All full time employees for this municipality received the same benefits and similar pay scales whether they were unionized or not. The difference between us and the other unions was that we had no right to strike. If I had a choice I would not have been a member of any union and would have taken my chances. So if these unions are so weak and ineffectual, why even bother taking away collective bargaining rights? Just steamroll over the poor bastards. The poor morons won’t even know what hit them. And I believe we’ve already covered how idiotic your attempting to spread your experience to cover everything really is so I don’t think I need to address it again. Do I? > [@](#): > > Either way, your talking about people feeding at the public trough on tax payers backs (this included me). Oh my. What ridiculously loaded language you use. > [@](#): > > Why do you think public employees should be making the same wages and benefits as those working for private companies? The same wages and benefits as those in private companies? Maybe it’s my ignorance showing, but why shouldn’t they be making the same? Do you think they should be making less? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/204 "2011-02-22T02:03:38Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Either way, your talking about people feeding at the public trough on tax payers backs (this included me). No, in fact, we are talking about people who perform valuable services for our society, and should receive appropriate pay and benefits paid for by our taxes. > [@](#): > > Why do you think public employees should be making the same wages and benefits as those working for private companies? Why not? You want competent government employees, don’t you? Why shouldn’t the government be a competitive employer? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/205 "2011-02-22T02:57:28Z")
> [@Honesty](#): > > What does this anecdote have to do with what I originally [posted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13485777#post13485777)? > > Scott Walker encapsulates what white privilege is. This man has no college degree and was elected to be Governor of Wisconsin. Ohio elected a Fox News Broadcaster as their Governor. It must be nice being white. It doesn’t he just sees the race card everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/206 "2011-02-22T03:00:24Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Yes. I had no choice in the matter. Sure you did, you could have gotten a different job. Remember that is the only leverage that you have with your employer without collective bargaining. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/207 "2011-02-22T03:02:17Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > In the interest of fighting ignorance, as funny as the names like “Koch Suckers” are, the name is pronounced “coke”, not “cock”. Thats just the way THEY pronounce it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/208 "2011-02-22T03:10:08Z")
[http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/21/exclusive-police-would-absolutely-carry-out-order-to-clear-wisc-capitol-union-president-tells-raw/](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/21/exclusive-police-would-absolutely-carry-out-order-to-clear-wisc-capitol-union-president-tells-raw/) It could get a hell of a lot worse. The police say they will use force if the gov. tells them to remove the protesters. That is all we need. Have pictures of police abusing American citizens involved in a peaceful rally that does not even threaten the government. Those pictures will travel the world. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/209 "2011-02-22T04:53:59Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Why do you think public employees should be making the same wages and benefits as those working for private companies? Because public employees are professionals providing essential services for the public good, and that deserves fair and equitable compensation. If you want competent, experienced, reasonable people in those positions, you pay them well, give them good benefits and recognize the importance of what they do. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/210 "2011-02-22T06:34:01Z")
Wisconsin does not have a deficit because of union employees. It has a deficit due to the Bush endless tax cuts slashing revenue. Walker cut corporate taxes too, to fabricate a deficit so he could do what he intended to do all along. It is an excuse to bust unions and get money where it belongs, in the hands of the superwealthy. Why do people still believe the crap republicans say? Look at what they do. Repubs always increase the deficits. They cut taxes and spend like maniacs . Then when Dems get in all they talk about is deficits and cutting. That prevents Dems from putting in any programs. We just can not afford it . Want to get back to a balanced budget. The Dems can do it. Fuck, Clinton left Bush with a surplus. Bush’s debt hole is just very hard to fill. It could take a long time ,but idiots like Walker are cutting more taxes in a time of deficit, How does that make sense? Especiallyl since Reagan and every Repub since, has given us ample proof that jobs are not created by gutting corporate taxes or taxes to the super rich. It is fantasy. Jobs are created by demand. Demand requires the consumer to have more spendable income. I wish it were difficult to understand so i could understand the people who vote Repub against their own interests. i can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/211 "2011-02-22T15:01:04Z")
I heard on the radio the other day that public sector employees, on average, have a higher level of education than private sector ones. So, using commonly accepted reasoning for these questions, public sector employees really should make more than their private (counter)parts. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/212 "2011-02-22T15:31:53Z")
heard on the news a republican state senator proposed accepting the compensation that the workers have agreed to as well as suspension of collective bargaining or the budget cycle (two years). the governor rejected that compromise. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/213 "2011-02-22T15:34:47Z")
Is it true that Scott Walker had a 2.3 GPA when he got kicked out of Marquette U for cheating? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/214 "2011-02-22T15:47:36Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Is it true that Scott Walker had a 2.3 GPA when he got kicked out of Marquette U for cheating? [His campaign said](http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/99700384.html) he had a GPA of 2.59 > [@](#): > > Walker declined to release his transcripts, but his campaign said he had a grade-point average of 2.59, in the C’s. He had just established status as a senior when he left after four years of mostly full-time coursework at Marquette University. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/215 "2011-02-22T16:07:13Z")
He certainly didn’t graduate, and his transcripts would be private, but I can find no proof he was kicked out for cheating…seems like that would be public knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/216 "2011-02-22T16:19:25Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > He certainly didn’t graduate, and his transcripts would be private, but I can find no proof he was kicked out for cheating…seems like that would be public knowledge. With a crappy 2.5 GPA, if there was cheating, the school may have told him “look, you’re a poor student, you’re not going to get into graduate school with your grades, you’re obviously not that invested in your education, if you ‘leave’ now we won’t put this academic dishonesty issue into your transcripts.” They wash their hands of him, and with his own poor scholarship, his chances – after 4 years – of being accepted into another decent school right away would be limited, at best, serving as his punishment. It happens all the time. “This school just isn’t a good fit for you…” kinds of things. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/217 "2011-02-22T16:26:57Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > “This school just isn’t a good fit for you…” kinds of things. “Republican, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son…” ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/218 "2011-02-22T19:24:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > “Republican, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son…” Apparently it is, if you have no values and empathy. ---
**Author:** ![furlibusea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@furlibusea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furlibusea)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/219 "2011-02-23T00:16:12Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [His campaign said](http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/99700384.html) he had a GPA of 2.59 Why the heck would you announce to the world that you were, at best. a C+ student? I am sure glad I didn’t pay for that education at Marquette. Wait… I think I am paying for it, or will be, for the rest of my career. On a further note, Walker is putting the lie to the idea that this is anything but a union busting move. The unions have offered the complete financial package he says he wants. A republican senator attempted to offer an amendment that would do just that and not remove collecting bargaining rights. Walker says [NO.](http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/moderate-wisconsin-gop-senator-floats-compromise-walker-rejects_550542.html) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/220 "2011-02-23T01:01:16Z")
nothing substantial to add, but some of the protesters found the perfect slogan: [Stop The Imperial Walker](http://lisahager.net/temp/imperial_walker.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=12)