# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/481 "2011-02-27T00:34:36Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > You seem to me to be very supportive thus far of the elected senators of Wisconsin not showing up for their sworn duty and instead hiding out. Legally the state has every right to return them to the legislature. > > Why would you not support the law? Which law again? The Governor can “compel” them to show up. But unfortunately his reach ends at the state line. Sad, really. > [@](#): > > Oh, I appreciate the label. I was suggesting that you were the same person as Assi. I find it hard to believe there are two of you shitbirds flocking here at once. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bodhi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@The\_Bodhi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bodhi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/482 "2011-02-27T00:41:03Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Don’t be so quick to embrace the label. He simply means it as things he likes to hold up to his face and sniff. I am quite assuredly not hanging on his every word. I just like it when someone attempts to discount what I say with a label. It makes it all the more fun when they eat their words later. ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/483 "2011-02-27T00:43:44Z")
You have a foil hat on, Labiahan? I’m not Bodhi. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bodhi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@The\_Bodhi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bodhi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/484 "2011-02-27T00:45:51Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Which law again? The Governor can “compel” them to show up. But unfortunately his reach ends at the state line. Sad, really. Try looking up the word compel. Further, do not put words in my mouth, I never said he could go to IL and bring them to WI. However, he could ask the Governor of IL to step in. That is not likely to go the way he would wish though. As for the senators, they are shirking their duty and breaking their sworn duty to represent their constituents. So, why do you support the senators breaking the law? > [@](#): > > I was suggesting that you were the same person as Assi. I find it hard to believe there are two of you shitbirds flocking here at once. I am certainly not Assi. Again, nice label. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/485 "2011-02-27T00:47:09Z")
> [@Assi](#): > > You have a foil hat on, Labiahan? > > I’m not Bodhi. Mmm, hmmm. So far neither one of you has said anything of substance… so I’m as of yet unconvinced. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/486 "2011-02-27T00:51:06Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So are you for or against obstructionism? I can’t tell. My consistent position has been that obstructionism is just fine depending on what you are obstructing. I don’t have a problem with purely obstructing as a tactic. Many of our resident liberal douches here think obstructionism as a tactic is terrible when Republicans do it but OK when Democrats do it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/487 "2011-02-27T00:52:42Z")
Assi, Bodhi: Is there anyone we can thank for sending you along our way? Is it the same generous soul we can thank for sending us a whole month of righty noobs? We are intensely grateful, and wish to shower said person with cash and eager practitioners of whatsoever sexual preference they might prefer. Boy oh boy we’d sure like to know who to thank. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/488 "2011-02-27T00:54:36Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > Try looking up the word compel. I know what it means. Do you? > [@](#): > > Further, do not put words in my mouth, I never said he could go to IL and bring them to WI. However, he could ask the Governor of IL to step in. That is not likely to go the way he would wish though. As for the senators, they are shirking their duty and breaking their sworn duty to represent their constituents. In what way? They are subject to recall or primary challenges when the next election comes round. That’s if their constituents object to what they’re doing. > [@](#): > > So, why do you support the senators breaking the law? What law are they breaking? What is the charge the police officer would use when arresting them? How much time are they facing? I actually don’t know, I’d like the information if you have it. > [@](#): > > I am certainly not Assi. Again, nice label. You’re certainly making a great case. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bodhi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@The\_Bodhi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bodhi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/489 "2011-02-27T00:56:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Assi, Bodhi: > > Is there anyone we can thank for sending you along our way? Is it the same generous soul we can thank for sending us a whole month of righty noobs? We are intensely grateful, and wish to shower said person with cash and eager practitioners of whatsoever sexual preference they might prefer. Boy oh boy we’d sure like to know who to thank. Ahh the noob label. Love it… Kiss. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/490 "2011-02-27T00:56:40Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > However, he could ask the Governor of IL to step in. The governor of IL has no grounds to do anything to the senators. > [@](#): > > So, why do you support the senators breaking the law? You are still avoiding any cite for the specific law they are breaking. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bodhi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@The\_Bodhi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bodhi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/491 "2011-02-27T01:04:39Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I know what it means. Do you? I do know and it comprises a word “forcibly”. > [@](#): > > In what way? They are subject to recall or primary challenges when the next election comes round. That’s if their constituents object to what they’re doing. The only law I can think of would be under conspiracy for the IL Governor. > [@](#): > > What law are they breaking? What is the charge the police officer would use when arresting them? How much time are they facing? I actually don’t know, I’d like the information if you have it. I am not going to look through WI statutes, but it is common fact that their is law on the books that allows the Governor to “compel” their return to the legislature. Obviously this is WI law and beings that they are out of state, he has no means to return them directly. But law is an interesting thing and in most states, it is illegal to conspire to commit an illegal act. While I could spend some time on a few legal databases and look up the exact laws, I am really not feeling the desire to waste that level of time. Further, this is nothing more than a political ploy that makes a mockery of the legislature in that state. > [@](#): > > You’re certainly making a great case. Please elaborate as to how you believe I am Assi? ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/492 "2011-02-27T01:19:17Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Assi, Bodhi: > > Is there anyone we can thank for sending you along our way? Is it the same generous soul we can thank for sending us a whole month of righty noobs? We are intensely grateful, and wish to shower said person with cash and eager practitioners of whatsoever sexual preference they might prefer. Boy oh boy we’d sure like to know who to thank. Crying because an opposing view shows up? That sounds about right for a liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/493 "2011-02-27T01:23:42Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > The only law I can think of would be under conspiracy for the IL Governor. Would you go into more detail on your “thinking” here, please? What law do you imagine would apply to Gov. Quinn? > [@](#): > > I am not going to look through WI statutes, but it is common fact that their is law on the books that allows the Governor to “compel” their return to the legislature. There is not. The Wisconsin Constitution states, “Each house … may compel the attendance of absent members in such manner and under such penalties as each house may provide.” The governor has nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/494 "2011-02-27T01:26:18Z")
I am not happy with the senators leaving the state. But the problem of union busting is too big to allow. The Gov, got all the financial concessions he asked for. But he is not after money. He wants to permanently cripple the unions by taking away their ability to act as a union. If they can not collect dues and can not negotiate collectively, they do not exist. That is what Walked demands. They have to destroy themselves before he will even talk to them. The Dems can not allow that to happen. The only way to stop it is leave. They should get busy recalling the Repubs and then see how solid a front they will show. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/495 "2011-02-27T01:27:39Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > I do know and it comprises a word “forcibly”. > [@](#): > > The only law I can think of would be under conspiracy for the IL Governor. What are the conspiring to do again? > [@](#): > > I am not going to look through WI statutes, but it is common fact that their is law on the books that allows the Governor to “compel” their return to the legislature. Obviously this is WI law and beings that they are out of state, he has no means to return them directly. But law is an interesting thing and in most states, it is illegal to conspire to commit an illegal act. While I could spend some time on a few legal databases and look up the exact laws, I am really not feeling the desire to waste that level of time. Further, this is nothing more than a political ploy that makes a mockery of the legislature in that state. Oh, so in other words you don’t know that they are breaking the law. So you’re a liar. Because liars state things as fact when they don’t know if they are facts. Okay liar. I just wanted to be sure. The \*law \*you’re looking for by the way is the Wisconsin constitution. > [@](#): > > Please elaborate as to how you believe I am Assi? You might not be Assi, but you’re definitely an assihole. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/496 "2011-02-27T01:28:47Z")
> [@Assi](#): > > Crying because an opposing view shows up? That sounds about right for a liberal. No, **elucidator** is crying because the recent influx of opposing views is not literate enough to set him up for a good pun, or to understand one. It’s only then that he resorts to sarcasm, bless his heart. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/497 "2011-02-27T01:41:16Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > II am not going to look through WI statutes, but it is common fact that their is law on the books that allows the Governor to “compel” their return to the legislature. Obviously this is WI law and beings that they are out of state, he has no means to return them directly. But law is an interesting thing and in most states, it is illegal to conspire to commit an illegal act. 1. The Governor can compel senators to attend sessioss of the senate. 2. It is not illegal for a senator to refuse to attend a session of the senate. These statements are both true. These statements do not contradict each other. That sound was Bodhi’s head asploding. > [@](#): > > While I could spend some time on a few legal databases and look up the exact laws, I am really not feeling the desire to waste that level of time. Game. Set. Match. > [@](#): > > Further, this is nothing more than a political ploy that makes a mockery of the legislature in that state. Walker doesn’t need any help in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/498 "2011-02-27T02:02:40Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Except that when Republicans did the same thing, they were doing something terrible, and you were not inclined to “suck it” yourself (instead you whined like a stuck pig that they were being obstructionist, which was oh so terrible). I never said they weren’t doing their jobs or that they were thwarting democracy. They were also obstructing everything, not just one thing, and sorry, but the thing that’s being obstructed actually does mean something. Not all obstruction is equal. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/499 "2011-02-27T02:05:37Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > My consistent position has been that obstructionism is just fine depending on what you are obstructing. I don’t have a problem with purely obstructing as a tactic. Many of our resident liberal douches here think obstructionism as a tactic is terrible when Republicans do it but OK when Democrats do it. In contrast to you, who thinks just the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/500 "2011-02-27T02:08:02Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > Try looking up the word compel. Further, do not put words in my mouth, I never said he could go to IL and bring them to WI. However, he could ask the Governor of IL to step in. The Governor of Illinois has no legal authority or jurisdiction to do anything. The Wisconsin Senators are not breaking any laws in Illinois, nor have they broken any laws in Wisconsin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=26)