# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/561 "2011-02-27T06:52:58Z")
> [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](#): > > Speaking of politicians acting illegally, everybody’s aware that the only person in this situation who has come close to doing so is Scott Walker, right? He’s almost certainly going to be investigated by the state Government Accountability Board over [the statements he made in the phone call with Ian Murphy](http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_0657a7e5-a7ca-59df-abf0-3222b8c8ef98.html), and Madison Police Chief Noble Wray and Mayor Dave Cieslewicz are [pushing him for answers](http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_40c3dfbe-402c-11e0-8c68-001cc4c002e0.html) over the suggestion to plant troublemakers among the protesters. Answers which he and his spokespeople have been reluctant to give past vagueness. Troublemakers? Oh noes!! I can’t imagine anyone sending “troublemakers” to a rally. It is unheard of. The left should be shocked! Never before has the left even considered causing a minor disturbance anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/562 "2011-02-27T07:04:00Z")
Yes, I’m sure that what the governor and friends had in mind was a “minor disturbance”, and not, say, a riot which could lead to many people being injured, including the children who have been attending the protests with their parents. Seeing as their goal there was to discredit the protesters and not just ruffle feathers. But, please, continue to minimize any wrongdoing on the part of the governor. I find it refreshing that people who had no interest in Wisconsin prior to this week are suddenly experts on what happens here. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/563 "2011-02-27T07:19:05Z")
> [@The\_Bodhi](#): > > Ah but he might. > > Conspiracy to defraud the public would do just fine in this case You pretty much don’t know what any of those words mean, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/564 "2011-02-27T07:41:08Z")
> [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](#): > > Yes, I’m sure that what the governor and friends had in mind was a “minor disturbance”… I can assure you there is a deep and wide chasm between what you are sure of and what actual reality is. > [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](#): > > …and not, say, a riot which could lead to many people being injured, including the children… Keep right on believing that, because it will come no closer to reality no matter how often you say or think it. > [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](#): > > But, please, continue to minimize any wrongdoing on the part of the governor. There is nothing to minimize. Who has minimized anything? Excepting disgusting insults uttered by your ilk, posters seem to be quite supportive. > [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](#): > > I find it refreshing that people who had no interest in Wisconsin prior to this week are suddenly experts on what happens here. Excellent. In case you haven’t been paying attention, it’s boiling over in various places all over the country. WI simply holds the distinction of exhibiting the most sophomoric activity. Who’s not bemused at the idiotic behavior of your legislators? (you, maybe?) Bwaaa, ha ha! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/565 "2011-02-27T08:06:59Z")
Ah, I see the SDMB has been invaded by a gaggle of tag-teaming teabaggers. I thought there was an unusually strong scent of scrotum in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/566 "2011-02-27T08:14:04Z")
Sorry, **Nadir** , but I’ve got the chief of police of Madison, the mayor, and a former state attorney general on my side. I don’t think I’m the one with a flawed sense of reality here! ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/567 "2011-02-27T08:18:50Z")
> [@Club\_33](#): > > Ah, I see the SDMB has been invaded by a gaggle of tag-teaming teabaggers. I thought there was an unusually strong scent of scrotum in the air. The thing I don’t understand about the tea party enthusiasts (and other small [del]mind[/del] government advocates) is that that they claim to favor a weak government, but want the government to be strong when it comes to dealing with its employees. Shouldn’t they be on the side of the workers and against the oppressive government in these cases? Or is it just a line of BS, like my employer’s “pro-employee” philosophy? Did I just answer my own question? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/568 "2011-02-27T08:22:30Z")
You’re trying to apply logic to the Tea Party, man. That never works. ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/569 "2011-02-27T09:11:30Z")
> [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](#): > > Yes, I’m sure that what the governor and friends had in mind was a “minor disturbance”, and not, say, a riot which could lead to many people being injured, including the children who have been attending the protests with their parents. Seeing as their goal there was to discredit the protesters and not just ruffle feathers. > > But, please, continue to minimize any wrongdoing on the part of the governor. I find it refreshing that people who had no interest in Wisconsin prior to this week are suddenly experts on what happens here. Ahh yes, the childrenz. The same ones they walked out on and got sick notes for abandoning. Wait, they dragged them to the protest, they didn’t abandon them. Brainwashing on the public’s dime no less. Well done lefty. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/570 "2011-02-27T10:39:55Z")
> [@Assi](#): > > Ahh yes, the childrenz. > > The same ones they walked out on and got sick notes for abandoning. Wait, they dragged them to the protest, they didn’t abandon them. > > Brainwashing on the public’s dime no less. At first I wanted to respond to your post because it was stupid. Then I realized that it made no sense. What was I going to respond to? What claim was I going to argue against? Your post was a big pile of dumb, which did impress me as it was four sentences. How on earth was I going to find something to refute in it? > [@](#): > > Well done lefty. Nonsense. Lefty should be cooked to medium at most. Most of them are organic fed (damned hippies!) and to cook them above medium would just ruin the taste and texture of the meat. If you want something well done, go with El Rushbo. He’s fattier, and can stand long cooking times better. Mission Accomplished. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/571 "2011-02-27T11:44:28Z")
> [@TravisFromOR](#): > > The thing I don’t understand about the tea party enthusiasts (and other small [del]mind[/del] government advocates) is that that they claim to favor a weak government, but want the government to be strong when it comes to dealing with its employees. Shouldn’t they be on the side of the workers and against the oppressive government in these cases? Or is it just a line of BS, like my employer’s “pro-employee” philosophy? Did I just answer my own question? They want government small enough to drown in a bathtub, yet large enough to fit into every womb in America. They are totally against any form of socialism, but you better keep your hands off their Social Security and Medicare. The sheer amount of cognitive dissonance is staggering. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/572 "2011-02-27T13:52:00Z")
Typical statists. Ignore the irrefutable. It is against the public interest to allow collective bargaining among public employees. If they want to be in a union, they should join the private sector. Looks like this place is full of public school teachers. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/573 "2011-02-27T14:10:04Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Looks like this place is full of public school teachers. The horror! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bodhi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@The\_Bodhi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bodhi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/574 "2011-02-27T15:39:48Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > They want government small enough to drown in a bathtub, yet large enough to fit into every womb in America. They are totally against any form of socialism, but you better keep your hands off their Social Security and Medicare. The sheer amount of cognitive dissonance is staggering. Wow, you seem to really have it all figured out… :smack: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bodhi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@The\_Bodhi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bodhi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/575 "2011-02-27T15:43:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > You pretty much don’t know what any of those words mean, do you? Wow, your retort is so full of precise reasons why my response would not work. That you so very much for your wonderful response. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/576 "2011-02-27T16:12:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > The horror! Quite. If your opinion on the subject is based in your need to maintain your cushy part-time job you need to get that out in the open. It goes back to that whole conflict of the public interest Thing… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/577 "2011-02-27T17:07:33Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > It is against the public interest to allow collective bargaining among public employees. No, it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/578 "2011-02-27T17:08:08Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Typical statists. Ignore the irrefutable. > > It is against the public interest to allow collective bargaining among public employees. If they want to be in a union, they should join the private sector. > > Looks like this place is full of public school teachers. Piffle, the former school I worked for was private and as it was small, the churn rate prevented any talk of unionization. And thanks to the current economy they are getting away with keeping staff workers permanently on a part time status, meaning no benefits to speak of. The new place is better, but still I had to go in as a part timer, so, still no benefits and no union. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/579 "2011-02-27T17:10:57Z")
Cone on, tell us, how’d you guys get here, anyway? We’ve always had a random rightard or two drop into the Board, like a turd in a punchbowl, _splort!_ But February was an awesome month for knuckle walkers. Most people here, you ask 'em, they’ll tell you. But you guys seem very coy about it, for some reason. Is there some reason we shouldn’t know? ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/580 "2011-02-27T17:14:42Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > No, it’s not. Wow. That stopped me in my tracks… Not. Public employee arbitration is like two thugs fighting over the money from an old lady’s purse that they snatched. It cannot possibly be in the public’s interest. If you want to join a union do it in the private sector. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=30)