# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/723 "2011-03-01T00:13:47Z")
> [@Ring](#): > > I haven’t read the whole thread, and even though I’m sure someone has already posted this link, I’m doing it just in case. > > I’m absolutely astounded that The Economist would publish something like this. They don’t usually advocate this type of thing. > > BTW, even though I’m a GM for a large Corp. I’m not anti-union, Just anti-public employe unions. > > [http://www.economist.com/node/18229422](http://www.economist.com/node/18229422) > [@](#): > > However, in his third battle— **trying to end the right to collective bargaining in the public sector—Mr Walker is going too far.** Yeah, I wonder why the economist would publish something like this… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/724 "2011-03-01T00:28:52Z")
> [@Phatzo](#): > > Can you imagine how Assi became an unrepentant racist, maybe he see’s a lot of coonery bufoonery and drew a conclusion. Call me if you get to town, I’d like to sic my dog on you. ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/725 "2011-03-01T00:52:37Z")
Lol Phatzo. Coonery bafoonery… [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Wd2BOAxEs) ---
**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/726 "2011-03-01T00:59:34Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Yeah, I wonder why the economist would publish something like this… 🙂 Goodness gracious, that almost sounds like someone grasping at straws. 🙂 If private sector companies are struck, there’s usually competitors that supply equivalent products. If public sector employees stop working people are screwed. That’s too much power. ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/727 "2011-03-01T01:04:45Z")
> [@Ring](#): > > Goodness gracious, that almost sounds like someone grasping at straws. 🙂 > > If private sector companies are struck, there’s usually competitors that supply equivalent products. If public sector employees stop working people are screwed. That’s too much power. You must want 6 year olds to work 15 hour shifts in coal mines. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/728 "2011-03-01T01:24:44Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Ah, here comes the patented \*\*gonzo \*\*retard spew. > > Newsflash, idiot: a lot of people in this state \*didn’t \*vote for Walker. In Milwaukee, where we actually \*knew \*what he was like firsthand, almost 70% of the votes cast were for someone other than Walker (over 60% of the total were for Tom Barrett). I apologize. I thought he won the election by a large margin. I also thought Wiaconsin was a state not just Milwaukee. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/729 "2011-03-01T01:30:04Z")
> [@Allah](#): > > Just wondering why your birth certificate states you are black Assi? > I can see you Five. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/730 "2011-03-01T01:31:16Z")
> [@Phatzo](#): > > Can you imagine how Assi became an unrepentant racist, maybe he see’s a lot of coonery bufoonery and drew a conclusion. Six. ---
**Author:** ![Phatzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Phatzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phatzo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/731 "2011-03-01T01:35:36Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Six. 0.05 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/732 "2011-03-01T01:36:01Z")
> [@Ring](#): > > If public sector employees stop working people are screwed. That’s too much power. Wait, that’s those same public sector employees who are sucking off the taxpayer’s teat, and are denigrated as lazy good-for-nothings, and do not deserve reasonable pay and benefits? I would have thought that if they stopped working you wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/733 "2011-03-01T01:36:18Z")
Are you counting something important? ---
**Author:** ![Assi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Assi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Assi)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/734 "2011-03-01T01:38:25Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Wait, that’s those same public sector employees who are sucking off the taxpayer’s teat, and are denigrated as lazy good-for-nothings, and do not deserve reasonable pay and benefits? I would have thought that if they stopped working you wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference. Power to the sheeple. ---
**Author:** ![Phatzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Phatzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phatzo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/735 "2011-03-01T01:39:07Z")
> [@Assi](#): > > Are you counting something important? unrepentant racists I think. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/736 "2011-03-01T01:42:31Z")
> [@Assi](#): > > Are you counting something important? I wouldn’t call it important. Amusing? Yes, I’d call it amusing. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/737 "2011-03-01T01:50:25Z")
> [@Ring](#): > > Goodness gracious, that almost sounds like someone grasping at straws. 🙂 Nah, even the freaking Economist notices when someone like Walker is an asshole. BTW, the bargaining rights are still the stumbling block that Walker is still trying to eliminate instead of compromising like the unions already did. > [@Ring](#): > > If private sector companies are struck, there’s usually competitors that supply equivalent products. If public sector employees stop working people are screwed. That’s too much power. Nations before tried to live with privatized or volunteer fire departments and others, after seeing how ineficient and wastful it was, we got the current system. Similar histories come also from the school systems that we have. Of course Walker decided not to demonize the firefighter and police unions and that continues to show that yes, he is an asshole for pretending to claim that the demonizing that he is doing is just related to a budget issue. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/738 "2011-03-01T02:53:25Z")
> [@Ring](#): > > Goodness gracious, that almost sounds like someone grasping at straws. 🙂 > > If private sector companies are struck, there’s usually competitors that supply equivalent products. If public sector employees stop working people are screwed. That’s too much power. Limiting the legal ability of public sector workers to strike has nothing whatsoever to do with limiting their ability to bargain collectively. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/739 "2011-03-01T02:55:29Z")
> [@Phatzo](#): > > Can you imagine how Assi became an unrepentant racist, maybe he see’s a lot of coonery bufoonery and drew a conclusion. Welcome new member **Phatzo**. Do you think Obama is the Messiah too? I’m just trying to keep track here. ---
**Author:** ![Ring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Ring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ring)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/740 "2011-03-01T03:07:32Z")
Frank wrote: > [@](#): > > Wait, that’s those same public sector employees who are sucking off the taxpayer’s teat, and are denigrated as lazy good-for-nothings, and do not deserve reasonable pay and benefits? I would have thought that if they stopped working you wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference. Wait a minute, I said that? Jeez, I must be a real prick. Gigobuster wrote: > [@](#): > > Nations before tried to live with privatized or volunteer fire departments and others, after seeing how ineficient and wastful it was, we got the current system. Similar histories come also from the school systems that we have. > > Of course Walker decided not to demonize the firefighter and police unions and that continues to show that yes, he is an asshole for pretending to claim that the demonizing that he is doing is just related to a budget issue. I also don’t remember saying any of that stuff. Privatizing some functions might be a good idea, but certainly not most of it. I would also say from personal observation that quite a few public employees do have pretty cake jobs, but not all. I just think that public unions give them too much power. They can shut down the government, and help elect their own bosses. As far as the cops and firefighters - don’t bite off more than you can chew. Save them for later. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/741 "2011-03-01T03:09:27Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Welcome new member **Phatzo**. Do you think Obama is the Messiah too? I’m just trying to keep track here. I know that all you need is N-41, but isn’t it cheating to ask a leading question to get your buzzword bingo card filled out? ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/742 "2011-03-01T03:16:29Z")
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