# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1083 "2011-03-05T11:24:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > He already did, idiot. I don’t that you’re frightened by me; I’m not going away. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1084 "2011-03-05T19:31:20Z")
Sluggo at least tell the truth. Law prohibits union dues from being used in political campaigns. The members have to willfully contribute to political campaigns . Some union workers contribute to Republican campaigns. Unions have PACs that workers may or may not contribute to. Quit making shit up. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1085 "2011-03-05T19:35:07Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Sluggo at least tell the truth. Law prohibits union dues from being used in political campaigns. The members have to willfully contribute to political campaigns . Some union workers contribute to Republican campaigns. Unions have PACs that workers may or may not contribute to. Quit making shit up. Of house you can back that statement up. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1086 "2011-03-05T19:38:42Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > I don’t that you’re frightened by me; I’m not going away. That is ok, I still want to know what kind of idiot you are, I’m always curios about the taxonomy of your kind. In any case, your contributions do show all what kind of “mind” is supporting the current crop of Republicans so it does work as a cautionary tale, so you are welcome to continue. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1087 "2011-03-05T19:42:43Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Of house you can back that statement up. > **[Political Action Committee - Further Readings](https://law.jrank.org/pages/9252/Political-Action-Committee.html)** Of house I can. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1088 "2011-03-05T20:12:09Z")
Stupid auto-correct… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1089 "2011-03-05T20:15:51Z")
Stupid Imperial Walker.. [http://www.salon.com/technology/how\_the\_world\_works/2011/03/04/the\_wisconsin\_endgame/index.html](http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2011/03/04/the_wisconsin_endgame/index.html) > [@](#): > > Just how nervous is Scott Walker feeling in Wisconsin? The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent alerts us to a Wall Street Journal article and a local news item in Wisconsin suggesting that two more Republican state senators may be on the verge of rejecting Walker’s budget repair bill. Republicans have 19-14 majority in the state Senate, and with one senator already on record in opposition, two more nay votes will kill the bill. > > I’ll believe it when I see it, but now that even conservative polling outfits have started reporting that significant majorities of Wisconsin citizens voters disapprove of Walker, it could be time to call it a day. > [@](#): > > Then there is this panicked quote, along with accompanying analysis from Moore [The Wall Street Journal]: > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > "Republicans can't turn back in Wisconsin," says Mark Mix of the National Right to Work Foundation. "This will only embolden the unions and weaken efforts at reform all over the country." It's foolish to believe that backing down will satisfy the unions. If history is any guide, more than 90 percent of union money will be used to defeat Republicans no matter what happens. > > > > ``` > > I have to echo Jonathan Chait here: **Wait just a minute – wasn’t this fight supposed to be about balancing the budget? Aren’t Republicans supposed to be a little more discreet about admitting that the real goal in Wisconsin was to break the knees of a political opponent?** ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1090 "2011-03-05T22:04:02Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Stupid auto-correct… In its defense, you phone’s auto-correct is probably much smarter than you. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1091 "2011-03-06T00:08:50Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Stupid auto-correct… In case you didn’t notice: you just got absolutely faced. By GONZOMAX. You ain’t exactly coming across as the intellectual face of conservatism here. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1092 "2011-03-06T00:53:33Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Law prohibits union dues from being used in political campaigns. Law prohibits all kinds of stuff, more or less effectually, depending… Are you suggesting this never happens? Or that union dues are used only as lawfully prescribed? Like tax dollars? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1093 "2011-03-06T00:54:41Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > In case you didn’t notice: you just got absolutely faced. By GONZOMAX. Go help Gonzo - he needs you now. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1094 "2011-03-06T01:11:56Z")
Now that I’m not typing on my phone… I’ve read over and over on these boards that it is just to ignore unjust laws. In fact, it is the common held belief among modern progressives that the end justifies the means. And since truth is some sort of gray mushy intangible thing to be manipulated to fit every scenario, why would public employee unions follow laws that stand in their way to their personally justified end? The whole system reeks and GOES AGAINST THE PUBLIC INTEREST. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1095 "2011-03-06T01:15:51Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > In fact, it is the common held belief among modern progressives that the end justifies the means. In what way? Specific please. While you’re at it, be sure to compare that with conservative beliefs. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1096 "2011-03-06T01:18:38Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > In what way? Specific please. > > While you’re at it, be sure to compare that with conservative beliefs. Thanks. There will be no specifics. I will not play your game. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1097 "2011-03-06T01:20:50Z")
Does not your end justify your means? After all, you are right, aren’t you? Righteousness is smug and reigns supreme. ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1098 "2011-03-06T01:27:28Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Now that I’m not typing on my phone… > > I’ve read over and over on these boards that it is just to ignore unjust laws. In fact, it is the common held belief among modern progressives that the end justifies the means. And since truth is some sort of gray mushy intangible thing to be manipulated to fit every scenario, why would public employee unions follow laws that stand in their way to their personally justified end? > > The whole system reeks and GOES AGAINST THE PUBLIC INTEREST. Gotta love truthiness. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1099 "2011-03-06T01:28:20Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Does not your end justify your means? Of course. It is in the public interest. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1100 "2011-03-06T01:28:57Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Of course. It is in the public interest. It’s in your interest anyways… ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1101 "2011-03-06T01:29:22Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > There will be no specifics. I will not play your game. [007]Do you expect me to talk?[/007] ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1102 "2011-03-06T01:32:00Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Does not your end justify your means? After all, you are right, aren’t you? Righteousness is smug and reigns supreme. And so you continue to ignore that the one doing it in this case is Walker and the republicans elected by the people to create jobs, not to eliminate green jobs or collective bargaining. As pointed by even the Wall Street Journal, this is a battle that you may win, but it will cause many Republicans their jobs in the coming elections. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=56)