# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1163 "2011-03-06T04:35:56Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Because that’s what you do isn’t it? You ban people you don’t agree with. Of course… if you stopped taunting me I’d probably just get bored and go away. But instead… you call me names and try to get me to talk myself into a corner.
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> I know this game.
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> You try to change the subject… Single out one sentence or segment of a sentence that you can hone in on, misrepresent, build as a strawman then knock down. I won’t play that game.
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> I completely expect to be banned. However, I have not spammed, threatened or harassed anyone here.
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> So… When you do ban me… It means that you have banned me to silence me because you don’t like what I say. Which means…
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> I ultimately win.

No, it means you’re not willing to intelligently engage in discussion. This site is about the reduction of ignorance and you’re its avatar.

Opinions should be different. But they should interact with a consistent set of facts. If you’re unwilling to engage based on the facts that actually exist in this universe you’re not much good to anyone.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1164 "2011-03-06T04:36:16Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> How many americans starved during the great depression?

Americans starving during the great depression is against the public interest.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1165 "2011-03-06T04:38:50Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Because that’s what you do isn’t it? You ban people you don’t agree with. Of course… if you stopped taunting me I’d probably just get bored and go away. But instead… you call me names and try to get me to talk myself into a corner.
> 
> I know this game.
> 
> You try to change the subject… Single out one sentence or segment of a sentence that you can hone in on, misrepresent, build as a strawman then knock down. I won’t play that game.
> 
> I completely expect to be banned. However, I have not spammed, threatened or harassed anyone here.
> 
> So… When you do ban me… It means that you have banned me to silence me because you don’t like what I say. Which means…
> 
> I ultimately win.

Hello mister oblivious, I already said that I hope you do remain. Of course, I don’t expect that you will ever realize how damaging you really are to your side with your tactics, but I always remember what Voltaire said with his only prayer regarding his enemies. God has answered our prayers with guys like you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1166 "2011-03-06T04:39:31Z")

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Do you have any idea how ironic it is for someone who claims to be for government employee unions to label themselves libertarian?

I bet you laugh at tea partiers that hold up signs demanding the gubment keep their hand off their dab gum social security too…

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1167 "2011-03-06T04:41:50Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Do you have any idea how ironic it is for someone who claims to be for government employee unions to label themselves libertarian?
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> I bet you laugh at tea partiers that hold up signs demanding the gubment keep their hand off their dab gum social security too…

I’m sorry, I am a true libertarian. If people want to unionize, that’s their right. End of story.

I do laugh at tea partiers when they demand that the government get rid of all government services except the ones they use. Laughing at hypocrites is the best laughter.

Not laughing at tea partiers is againt the public interest.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1168 "2011-03-06T04:44:13Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Americans starving during the great depression is against the public interest.

That’s a fact. Good thing none did.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1169 "2011-03-06T04:46:04Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> I’m sorry, I am a true libertarian. If people want to unionize, that’s their right. End of story.
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> I do laugh at tea partiers when they demand that the government get rid of all government services except the ones they use. Laughing at hypocrites is the best laughter.
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> Not laughing at tea partiers is againt the public interest.

So… as a libertarian you don’t find it appalling that the government has grown to such a size as to warrant organized labor?

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**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1170 "2011-03-06T04:53:38Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> So… as a libertarian you don’t find it appalling that the government has grown to such a size as to warrant organized labor?

That’s changing the subject.

We’re not debating the size of the government, but organized labor. Organized labor did not begat the bloated government.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1171 "2011-03-06T04:57:04Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> How many americans starved during the great depression?

[http://www.life123.com/question/How-Many-People-Died-during-the-Great-Depression](http://www.life123.com/question/How-Many-People-Died-during-the-Great-Depression)

The agencies that kept track were unfunded but estimates are about 7 million.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1172 "2011-03-06T04:59:13Z")

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[How many people died in the Great Depression? - Answers](http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_in_the_Great_Depression) This site says 12 million.  
It is amazing how blind you are.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1173 "2011-03-06T04:59:36Z")

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That fact is against the public interest, citizen. You have the right to remain silent.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1174 "2011-03-06T05:07:00Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> So… as a libertarian you don’t find it appalling that the government has grown to such a size as to warrant organized labor?

One doesn’t have anything to do with the other. I support the right of people to join groups with whomever they see fit, donate their paychecks to whomever they see fit, democratically assist in determining the work rules at their place of employment, and appoint whomever they wish as a negotiator for their contracts individually or jointly with their employers.

Hell, I’m so libertarian I am pro-choice because it’s a logical extension of the Castle Doctrine.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1175 "2011-03-06T05:10:32Z")

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Answers dot fucking com? Seriously?

You are hereby no longer allowed to answer questions. You’re making the libs look even worse (somehow).

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1176 "2011-03-06T05:12:33Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> One doesn’t have anything to do with the other. I support the right of people to join groups with whomever they see fit, donate their paychecks to whomever they see fit, democratically assist in determining the work rules at their place of employment, and appoint whomever they wish as a negotiator for their contracts individually or jointly with their employers.
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> Hell, I’m so libertarian I am pro-choice because it’s a logical extension of the Castle Doctrine.

And the american tax system is voluntary, right Harry Reed?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1177 "2011-03-06T05:18:41Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Teachers in my district are forbidden from taking their work home with them by their union. When the bell rings they are in the parking before the students. They are forbidden by their union from working during their lunch. They are required to be given one hour during the school day to do non-classwork. Any work that doesn’t get done while they are on the clock doesn’t get done.
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> They actually only work six and a half hours a day.
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> It’s the best paying part-time job in the world.

Hi from a Saturday night in the middle of a typical teacher’s weekend, where I’m spending a lot of time grading student work, running around buying supplies for my classroom with my own money and creating handouts for Monday morning… and running to Kinko’s to make copies of them.

But there’s a Kinko’s about seven blocks from the Capitol here in Madison, so I can get that done on my way to protest tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1178 "2011-03-06T05:19:21Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Answers dot fucking com? Seriously?
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> You are hereby no longer allowed to answer questions. You’re making the libs look even worse (somehow).

Making liberals look bad goes against the public interest.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1179 "2011-03-06T05:23:35Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> And the american tax system is voluntary, right Harry Reed?

The tax system is not the subject of discussion. There are a LOT of things we need to do, like pay down the deficit and cut stupid spending, before we address that.

As a libertarian, I’d support higher tax rates now until the debt is paid down. Any idiot who’s ever had a mortgage knows that the smart financial call is to put as much on that early as you can to save yourself interest.

Too bad the idiots running with Rs next to their name think that the Obama health care bill (estimated to save money) is bad, but foreign wars to fight non-state-actor terrorists (estimated to cost shit-tons of money) are good.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1180 "2011-03-06T05:27:56Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> \<snip\> You try to change the subject… Single out one sentence or segment of a sentence that you can \*\*hone \*\*in on \<snip\>

(Bolding mine)

It’s “\*\*HOME \*\*in on”, not hone. I swear, next person to say that near me is going to get smacked.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1181 "2011-03-06T05:28:27Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Hi from a Saturday night in the middle of a typical teacher’s weekend, where I’m spending a lot of time grading student work, running around buying supplies for my classroom with my own money and creating handouts for Monday morning… and running to Kinko’s to make copies of them.
> 
> But there’s a Kinko’s about seven blocks from the Capitol here in Madison, so I can get that done on my way to protest tomorrow.

Yeah you. Don’t worry. What ever you give up now you’ll get back and then some when your union buys the next dem governor.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1182 "2011-03-06T05:31:18Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> The tax system is not the subject of discussion. There are a LOT of things we need to do, like pay down the deficit and cut stupid spending, before we address that.
> 
> As a libertarian, I’d support higher tax rates now until the debt is paid down. Any idiot who’s ever had a mortgage knows that the smart financial call is to put as much on that early as you can to save yourself interest.
> 
> Too bad the idiots running with Rs next to their name think that the Obama health care bill (estimated to save money) is bad, but foreign wars to fight non-state-actor terrorists (estimated to cost shit-tons of money) are good.

How can a libertarian support the government forcing it’s citizens to purchase a product?

You are not a libertarian. Just because you call yourself one doesn’t make you one.

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