# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1183 "2011-03-06T05:33:00Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > (Bolding mine) > > It’s “\*\*HOME \*\*in on”, not hone. I swear, next person to say that near me is going to get smacked. What a stupid fuck. > **[hone](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hone)** > > Definition, Synonyms, Translations of hone by The Free Dictionary ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1184 "2011-03-06T05:33:49Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Yeah you. Don’t worry. What ever you give up now you’ll get back and then some when your union buys the next dem governor. Ironic that a supposed libertarian like you is not only anti-democracy (since you’re obviously upset at the near certainty that the next WI governor will be a Democrat) but thinks it’s a good idea to limit political spending by freely formed groups of associates–since it’s been cited numerous times in this thread that public unions do not mandate political contributions from their members. Reality is what it is. Pretending it’s a vast conspiracy against your worldview and/or pretending all your opponents cheat with no evidence to show for it makes you out to be a loon, and I’m sorry you’re even nominally on my side on some issues. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1185 "2011-03-06T05:35:05Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > How can a libertarian support the government forcing it’s citizens to purchase a product? > > You are not a libertarian. Just because you call yourself one doesn’t make you one. Because it costs me less money in the long term and cracks a monopoly that’s propped up by the various states. I’m as much a libertarian as you, who wants to prevent people from freely associating and spending their own money on political action. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1186 "2011-03-06T05:37:44Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Ironic that a supposed libertarian like you is not only anti-democracy (since you’re obviously upset at the near certainty that the next WI governor will be a Democrat) but thinks it’s a good idea to limit political spending by freely formed groups of associates–since it’s been cited numerous times in this thread that public unions do not mandate political contributions from their members. > > Reality is what it is. Pretending it’s a vast conspiracy against your worldview and/or pretending all your opponents cheat with no evidence to show for it makes you out to be a loon, and I’m sorry you’re even nominally on my side on some issues. If I seem anti-democracy it’s because I don’t live in a democracy. And pretending that all opponents cheat and use that fallacy as an excuse to cheat is a tactic your side uses. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1187 "2011-03-06T05:38:20Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > What a stupid fuck. > > [Hone - definition of hone by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hone) And if you’d just read a little further, you’d have seen this: > [@](#): > > Middle English, from Old English hn, stone; see k- in Indo-European roots. _Hone in_, **alteration of** _home in_. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1188 "2011-03-06T05:41:08Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > If I seem anti-democracy it’s because I don’t live in a democracy. And pretending that all opponents cheat and use that fallacy as an excuse to cheat is a tactic your side uses. Yeah, that’s pretty funny. You’re entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1189 "2011-03-06T05:46:04Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Yeah, that’s pretty funny. You’re entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts. Well thanx for allowing that! ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1190 "2011-03-06T05:48:33Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > And if you’d just read a little further, you’d have seen this: Whatever, jackass. Bitch about misusing a word that you don’t even know the definition of. A fucking typical. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1191 "2011-03-06T05:58:46Z")
The problem sluggo, is that you’ve never learned how to think. When we post stuff that we’ve thought about and it comports with factual reality, you think we’re cheating. No, we’re not, it’s just that you’re not ready to compete. It’s sad really. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1192 "2011-03-06T06:02:27Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > The problem sluggo, is that you’ve never learned how to think. When we post stuff that we’ve thought about and it comports with factual reality, you think we’re cheating. No, we’re not, it’s just that you’re not ready to compete. > > It’s sad really. ☹ Because I reject your ideology I’ve never learned to think… How elitist of you. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1193 "2011-03-06T06:05:09Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > Because I reject your ideology I’ve never learned to think… How elitist of you. Ideology has nothing to do with it. Your ability to debate sucks, you don’t present supporting citations, you just post bare assertions and ridicule cites you don’t like instead of refuting them. ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1194 "2011-03-06T06:07:13Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Ideology has nothing to do with it. Your ability to debate sucks, you don’t present supporting citations, you just post bare assertions and ridicule cites you don’t like instead of refuting them. It just pisses you off that I won’t play your game. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1195 "2011-03-06T06:10:12Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > He fixed a lot of it. Then we slowly killed his safeguards until it happened again. Did something happen? Is the sky falling again? I was just outside a minute ago and could have sworn the sky was still in place. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1196 "2011-03-06T06:10:58Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > It just pisses you off that I won’t play your game. **superslug** ’s very existence is against the public interest. (say hi to **Gordon69** bot for me!) ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1197 "2011-03-06T06:15:01Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > It just pisses you off that I won’t play your game. Uh, yeah. My “game”. The one where we present facts and evidence to support our beliefs, instead of just ranting. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1198 "2011-03-06T07:12:41Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > If this idiot doesn’t get banned as a troll soon, I think we should make this thread about the various things that are against the public interest. After all, in superslug world, asserting it makes it true! Letting a pitcher return to the mound in a baseball game in which somebody else has taken his turn at bat is against the public interest. Eliminating the 64-ounce carton of ice cream from the supermarkets of the nation is against the public interest. “Hi, Opal” is against the pub—wait a minute, that one’s okay. Hard sourdough-flavored pretzels are against the public interest. Electing Republicans to office is against the public interest. Hotels that charge extra for pet-friendly rooms are against the public interest. Pronouncing “sherbet” as _sherbert_ is against the public interest. Selling cheddar cheese while it is still “mild” is against the public interest. Watching news on television is against the public interest. Resurrecting zombie threads is against the public interest. Signing a post with “regards,” is against the public interest. Drinking the last of the orange juice and returning the empty bottle to the refrigerator is against the public interest. Gratuitously denying gratuitous assertions is against the public interest. “Just asking questions” is against the public interest. “Rio” by Duran Duran is against the public interest Like that? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1199 "2011-03-06T07:22:47Z")
> [@Nadir](#): > > Did something happen? Is the sky falling again? I was just outside a minute ago and could have sworn the sky was still in place. 😕 Glass/Steaga repeall. Unemployment at about 20 percent. Two wars simultaneously. Repub busting unions. The largest maldistribution of wealth since the Gilded Age. The rich screaming for more tax breaks as the top 1percent take half the wealth . The bankers destroyed the worlds economy and not one went to jail. They enriched themselves at the expense of the working people. And some think they are special people who can be trusted. Go outside. take another look. It is time to turn against the thieves that are looting the country of its future. There is an ugly cast on the clouds. No Sluggo .it is not the unions. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1200 "2011-03-06T08:01:39Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The rich screaming for more tax breaks as the top 1percent take half the wealth. I find this assertion particularly interesting. You seem to characterize “wealth” as some sort of commodity that can be harvested or mined, as if it somehow gets gathered up by the chosen few and squirreled away by them at your expense. As to the public interest, I believe defining the term itself so the majority of people would agree is literally impossible. Disparate interests are the basis for political disagreements in the first place. Private interests - now there’s a topic of discussion I could get behind! ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1201 "2011-03-06T14:15:32Z")
To expound on the last post… It is a common liberal fallacy to claim that their is a physical limit to a nation’s wealth; that the rich are hording it and keeping it from the po folk. There is a common phrase among conservatives that is utterly foreign to liberals: Wealth _Creation_ Instead of bitching about all those rich bastards having too many cookies… MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING COOKIES! And I’ll tell you… wealth creation has nothing to do with using a public employee union as a prybar to extract more and more money from the taxpayer. That, in my humble opinion, goes against the public interest. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1202 "2011-03-06T15:26:34Z")
> [@superslug](#): > > And I’ll tell you.. wealth creation has nothing to do with using a public employee union as a prybar to extract more and more money from the taxpayer. Because the free market doesn’t apply to government, and taxpayers are entitled to the labor of public employees. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=61)