# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1243 "2011-03-06T17:32:17Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> I’m ignorant because you can’t name one self-made independently wealthy liberal who didn’t start out as a die-hard capitalist?

As the points I’m making do not require that, yes, you are just using a straw man, you are still attempting to deny that you originally said that liberals can not do wealth creation. Attempting to say that the liberals I mentioned do not count because they were capitalists, is moving the goal posts and then you are still setting the straw man that we liberals are saying that no capitalist can be a liberal, no one has said that here but you.

And you still continue to demonstrate that you are an idiot by assuming that we could not notice what you are doing.

> [@superslug](#):
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> The key to liberal success is to have LOTS of conservatives to confiscate wealth from. OR… to start out as a capitalist and gain. guilt and conscience with age.

As history shows, there were even conservatives that realized the old deal was going to lead to revolution, and then no one would know what to expect, history also shows that you never know what leaders one would get after the shooting stopped.

And so we got the New Deal, an idea to prevent communism and fascism from setting shop in America.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1244 "2011-03-06T17:33:28Z")

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Don’t you think he had some pretty good ideas about equality? (Lenin, that is)

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1245 "2011-03-06T17:36:49Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> As the points I’m making do not require that, yes, you are just using a straw man, you are still attempting to deny that you originally said that liberals can not do wealth creation. Attempting to say that the liberals I mentioned do not count because they were capitalists, is moving the goal posts and then you are still setting the straw man that we liberals are saying that no capitalist can be a liberal, no one has said that here but you.
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> And you still continue to demonstrate that you are an idiot by assuming that we could not notice what you are doing.  
> As history shows, there were even conservatives that realized the old deal was going to lead to revolution, and then no one would know what to expect, history also shows that you never know what leaders one would get after the shooting stopped.
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> And so we got the New Deal, an idea to prevent communism and fascism from setting shop in America.

So.. FDR was the american version of that Von Oldgermandeaddude that was mentioned earlier. Interesting… I’m learning here!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1246 "2011-03-06T17:38:58Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> I’m ignorant because you can’t name one self-made independently wealthy liberal who didn’t start out as a die-hard capitalist?

Just to clarify, you are so dumb that you don’t notice what is the problem, I’m referring to your ignorance of even the simplest logical fallacies in the book.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1247 "2011-03-06T17:40:11Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Don’t you think he had some pretty good ideas about equality? (Lenin, that is)

Show me a cite that Lennin guided Roosevelt or this is just lie #3

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**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1248 "2011-03-06T17:42:39Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Don’t you think he had some pretty good ideas about equality? (Lenin, that is)

Reported for trolling. Either you’re a troll, or you’re so stupid you might as well be.

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1249 "2011-03-06T17:48:22Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Show me a cite that Lennin guided Roosevelt or this is just lie #3

Who said anything about that?

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1250 "2011-03-06T17:50:05Z")

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> [@Cort](#):
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> Reported for trolling. Either you’re a troll, or you’re so stupid you might as well be.

Hey Cort! Pleased to meetya! Thanx for doing your part to keep the streets of straightdope clean of all unsavory debris!

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**Author:** ![caper12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@caper12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caper12)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1251 "2011-03-06T17:57:46Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Assi, Bodhi:
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> Is there anyone we can thank for sending you along our way? Is it the same generous soul we can thank for sending us a whole month of righty noobs? We are intensely grateful, and wish to shower said person with cash and eager practitioners of whatsoever sexual preference they might prefer. Boy oh boy we’d sure like to know who to thank.

[www.flamewarriors.net](http://www.flamewarriors.net). … A forum that allows free discussion with almost zero moderation.

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**Author:** ![caper12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@caper12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caper12)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1252 "2011-03-06T18:08:45Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The Wisconsin Democrats are still holed up in Illinois today. The Wisconsin Legislature can’t vote on its odious little union busting bill without them. Governor Wanker has impotently ordered the state police to arrest the AWOL Dems and bring them by force, but obviously the Wisconsin cops can’t go to Illinois to get them. So there they sit, all itching and eager to start destroying the lives of the working class and dismantling their education system, but they can’t do a damn thing unless the Democrats come back and sit their obediently while they do it. Kudos to the Wisconsin Dems. Wait these motherfuckers out as long as it takes. Show them what a “party of no” really fucking means.

Screw those Dems, they are the scum of the earth. The Republicans should vote to change the quorum % to one less and then pass the bill without the Dems.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1253 "2011-03-06T18:11:43Z")

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They would need a quorum to change the rules on the quorum. Other than that, brilliant!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1254 "2011-03-06T18:14:58Z")

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Welcome to the dope, **caper12**. I look forward to your insightful posts.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1255 "2011-03-06T18:17:38Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Who said anything about that?

If that is the case, and you are trying to pretend there was no context there, we have to add in the taxonomy that you are also a:

Poster of irrelevant content.  
Hey, I’m easy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1256 "2011-03-06T18:28:15Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> If that is the case, and you are trying to pretend there was no context there, we have to add in the taxonomy that you are also a:
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> Poster of irrelevant content.  
> Hey, I’m easy. 🙂

Let’s face it… You consider anything that doesn’t fit your agenda to be irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![caper12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@caper12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caper12)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1257 "2011-03-06T18:29:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> They would need a quorum to change the rules on the quorum. Other than that, brilliant!

Is that true? I thought that they just needed a simple majority for matters not involving the budget .

The are passing other bills while the Dems are hiding.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1258 "2011-03-06T18:31:25Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> Let’s face it… You consider anything that doesn’t fit your agenda to be irrelevant.

Nope, just not relevant to the thread issue.  
[To all]

He does need even help to notice that, yeah, sad.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1259 "2011-03-06T18:42:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …I thought that they just needed a simple majority for matters not involving the budget .

Actually, I am not entirely sure. As a general rule, though, rule changes require a higher order of consent than a simple majority.

Your post speculating about the origins of the recent plague that has befallen us is somewhat interesting, I went there and poked it with a stick. Mostly harmless. But I do recognize several of the names, however, that does not explain how they got to be sicced on us. I note with approval that at least one of them has a kicking rack of ginormous jigglys. Our own message board does not support the display of physical attributes. More’s the pity, perhaps.

And “zero moderation”? Well, there’s a problem, no? Without the Luminous Ones, who sit at the right hand of The Cecil, our level of pristine intelligence and civility would not be possible. (Grovel, grovel, kissy, kissy…)

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1260 "2011-03-06T18:45:45Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Nope, just not relevant to the thread issue.  
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> He does need even help to notice that, yeah, sad.

You’re the one who keeps trying to change the subject.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1261 "2011-03-06T18:49:43Z")

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> [@superslug](#):
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> You’re the one who keeps trying to change the subject.

I will let others decide that you Lennin boy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1262 "2011-03-06T18:50:47Z")

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I always preferred McCartney. Better singer, better capitalist.

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