# Govenor Scott Walker (R) WI **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743 "2011-02-17T20:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1343 "2011-03-09T18:04:21Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > You mean like how one contract is to educate our youth so they can grow up to be happy, productive, knowledgable members of a democracy & the other contract is to make stuff to kill people? I was thinking more along the lines of the fixed-price, performance-based limited term vs. open-ended financial black hole kinda thing. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1344 "2011-03-09T18:56:05Z")
> [@Nadir](#): > > I was thinking more along the lines of the fixed-price, performance-based limited term vs. open-ended financial black hole kinda thing. Speaking as a IT/FSO guy for a DoD contractor, with a brother who teaches public high school… well, from personal experience, we get a LOT less contract oversight and performance evaluations than he does. In point of fact, “limited-term” contracts are a total joke at every Federal contractor I’ve ever worked for. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1345 "2011-03-09T19:02:39Z")
That would show them, wouldn’t it? Hold teachers to the strict oversight and accountability that we apply to Haliburton and Blackwater? No more cocaine for _you_, Mrs. Grundy! ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1346 "2011-03-09T19:05:39Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > In point of fact, “limited-term” contracts are a total joke at every Federal contractor I’ve ever worked for. …pension, and OBTW - salary? Just exactly how often are your “jokes” renewed? The fact is, it’s on an annual basis, in most cases. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1347 "2011-03-09T20:02:09Z")
> [@Nadir](#): > > I was thinking more along the lines of the fixed-price, performance-based limited term vs. open-ended financial black hole kinda thing. Which is teachers and which is defense contractors? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1348 "2011-03-09T20:36:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That would show them, wouldn’t it? Hold teachers to the strict oversight and accountability that we apply to Haliburton and Blackwater? No more cocaine for _you_, Mrs. Grundy! Well, not much, anyway. And none on the floor of the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1349 "2011-03-09T21:18:05Z")
> [@Nadir](#): > > …pension, and OBTW - salary? > > Just exactly how often are your “jokes” renewed? The fact is, it’s on an annual basis, in most cases. Actually, I get 95% of my health insurance paid for by the company, and matching on my 401k up to 7%, and an ESOP–all coming out of that lovely, lovely thing known as the G&A/Overhead CLIN. Way better than any company I’ve worked for that WASN’T a DoD contrator–the USDA/DeptAg contractor I worked for previously didn’t get nearly that good a negotiation. The term lengths of government contracts and the length between teachers union renegotiations is not appreciably different–1-3 years being typical for the former and 3-5 for the latter, at least in the one specific school district I know. ---
**Author:** ![caper12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@caper12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caper12)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1350 "2011-03-10T03:53:49Z")
Well I was correct. They only needed a simple majority to pass legislation that does not have to do with the budget. Screw you, dems. LOL! Screw the unions too. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1351 "2011-03-10T04:03:30Z")
> [@caper12](#): > > Well I was correct. They only needed a simple majority to pass legislation that does not have to do with the budget. > > Screw you, dems. LOL! > > Screw the unions too. Yeah…the Republicans in Wisconsin just destroyed their party in that state. Eight recalls in the Senate coming up. Recall for Walker in January. Total electoral destruction for the Republican party in Wisconsin in 2012. Well done, GOP! Besides which, this vote was illegal. Wisconsin’s open meeting law requires 24-hour notice of any public meeting, including substantive sessions of the legislature. There was less than 2 hours notice of this vote. It’s going to court. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Messiah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@The\_Messiah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Messiah)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1352 "2011-03-10T04:07:34Z")
Great success for the Republicans in Wisconsin. The support will grow faster and stronger than the weak, tired, ineffective, lefty whines. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1353 "2011-03-10T04:12:56Z")
Great last gasp of Republicans in Wisconsin. Consequences have consequences. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1354 "2011-03-10T04:15:39Z")
> [@The\_Messiah](#): > > Great success for the Republicans in Wisconsin. The support will grow faster and stronger than the weak, tired, ineffective, lefty whines. Haven’t been paying attention, have you? A 100,000-strong demonstration in a state capital isn’t weak, tired or ineffective. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Messiah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@The\_Messiah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Messiah)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1355 "2011-03-10T04:21:53Z")
Maybe the Koch bros will throw even more money towards this movement. November is still paying off nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1356 "2011-03-10T04:23:41Z")
> [@The\_Messiah](#): > > Maybe the Koch bros will throw even more money towards this movement. November is still paying off nicely. That’s the nice thing about low expectations, I guess. You are never disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1357 "2011-03-10T04:25:44Z")
> [@The\_Messiah](#): > > Maybe the Koch bros will throw even more money towards this movement. November is still paying off nicely. Please tell me that you’re really a liberal trying to make conservatives seem retarded. I find it hard to believe that someone can be as stupid as you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1358 "2011-03-10T04:48:58Z")
He’s probably working on the assumption that cynicism is better than argument. Which may well be true if you have no case. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1359 "2011-03-10T13:07:29Z")
I’m guessing he was actually a sock, considering how quickly he was banned. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1360 "2011-03-10T13:59:58Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yeah…the Republicans in Wisconsin just destroyed their party in that state. Eight recalls in the Senate coming up. Recall for Walker in January. Total electoral destruction for the Republican party in Wisconsin in 2012. Well done, GOP! > > Besides which, this vote was illegal. Wisconsin’s open meeting law requires 24-hour notice of any public meeting, including substantive sessions of the legislature. There was less than 2 hours notice of this vote. It’s going to court. I’ll offer you two bets, **Jayjay**. $100 each. 1. The courts will ultimately not void this legislation. 2. “Total destruction” of the GOP in Wisconsin won’t occur, as measured by the fact that the GOP will retain control of at least one legislative house. What do you say? ---
**Author:** ![superslug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@superslug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/superslug)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1361 "2011-03-10T14:09:56Z")
> [@TravisFromOR](#): > > Please tell me that you’re really a liberal trying to make conservatives seem retarded. I find it hard to believe that someone can be as stupid as you. “Stupid” handed your ass to you last November. ---
**Author:** ![caper12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@caper12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caper12)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743/1362 "2011-03-10T14:26:21Z")
If the Dems didn’t run away into hiding, non of this would have happened. Are they going to run away from every vote they don’t like? Those dems are disgusting slime balls. I’m glad the bill got passed without them…serves them right. The squealing is going to be great fun to watch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/govenor-scott-walker-r-wi/571743.md?page=69)