# Government shutdown watch fall 2023 edition **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 5, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657 "2023-09-05T18:05:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/201 "2023-11-14T23:16:57Z")
Same song, different verse, a little bit louder and a little bit worse… > **[House votes to prevent a government shutdown as GOP Speaker Johnson relies on...](https://news.yahoo.com/last-government-shutdown-deadline-ousted-050529372.html)** > > The House voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to prevent a government shutdown after new Republican Speaker Mike Johnson was forced to reach across the aisle to Democrats when hard-right conservatives revolted against his plan. The bipartisan tally —... The House voted Tuesday to prevent a government shutdown after new Republican Speaker Mike Johnson was forced to reach across the aisle to Democrats when hard-… It’s basically the same deal McCarthy made except there are 2 different deadlines for different appropriations. So they kicked the can down the road, needed Democrats to help pass it, and included no obvious poison pills. The Chaos Caucus is furious, of course. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/202 "2023-11-15T03:20:20Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > The Chaos Caucus is furious, of course. Wouldn’t it be nice if they held their breath until they turned blue and then had a stroke? Or resigned in a pique of fury. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/203 "2023-11-15T13:14:20Z")
The Chaos Caucus thinks “We have about 10 members out of 435. Therefore we get everything we want.” If only the sane Republicans could tell them to pound sand. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/204 "2023-11-15T14:40:29Z")
In this case the 10 _do_ control the agenda. Dumb, but they did it to themselves. Shame the other 350M of us get to ride along on what the 10 selfish loonies want. I predict that last sentence will describe much of US politics for the remaining 2-4 decades of my life. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/205 "2023-11-15T18:58:00Z")
I noticed that, while the vote counts in the two continuing resolution votes were about the same, a considerable number of people changed their votes No on the first one, Yes on the second: Aderholt Babin Fitzgerald Harris Jackson (TX) Johnson (LA) Loudermilk McClain Moolenaar Nehls Pence Pfluger Yes on the first one, No on the second: Alford (D) Auchincloss Carl Finstad Fischbach Gallagher Graves (LA) Houchin McClintock Miller (OH) Rogers (AL) Santos Wittman Quigley was the only Democrat to vote against both of them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/206 "2023-11-15T20:25:08Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The Chaos Caucus thinks “We have about 10 members out of 435. Therefore we get everything we want.” If only the sane Republicans could tell them to pound sand. The GOP only has about a 9 seat majority. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/207 "2023-11-15T21:28:46Z")
Suppose the Republican majority was 218-217. Would that mean the Republicans would be ruled by the looniest one? ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/208 "2023-11-15T21:56:14Z")
Wondering how many of those who changed their votes heard from their big money donors that they would _not_ be happy if the government shut down again and disrupted their profit-making ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/209 "2023-11-16T07:22:07Z")
But then _anyone_ could be the spoiler making demands. Multiple reps wanting to be kingmaker would start making demands, and possibly not even in the barely unified way the FC is doing now. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/210 "2023-11-16T15:04:01Z")
Passed the Senate last night 87-11. All the no votes were Republicans except that Democratic Colorado Senator Michael Bennet voted against it for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/211 "2023-11-16T17:27:03Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > (snip) > > Quigley was the only Democrat to vote against both of them. For those who may not know, Quigley has made it clear his no vote is because of the lack of funding for Ukraine. He represents a neighborhood in Chicago called Ukrainian Village which has a large number of people of Ukrainian descent. ---
**Author:** ![SoToasty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sotoasty/32/2803_2.png) [@SoToasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoToasty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/212 "2023-11-16T21:58:42Z")
Not sure if this really true, but it could be the republicans were duped. > **[That “laddered CR”? A surprise switcheroo—Mike Johnson’s GOP got played, lost...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/15/2206068/-That-laddered-CR-A-surprise-switcheroo-Mike-Johnson-s-GOP-got-played-lost-EVERYTHING-they-wanted?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)** > > There are times to debate policy and plan GOTV, and times to take a victory lap, gloat, mock and laugh at today’s pathetic Republican Party when they lose and get publicly humiliated. And of all things, that laddered Continuing Resolution—the one... ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/213 "2023-11-16T22:51:32Z")
Wow. I so hope that’s accurate analysis. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/214 "2023-11-16T22:58:43Z")
It’s a bunch of bull. Which agencies would be subject to which deadline has been known for days and Defense has been in the second deadline the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![SoToasty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sotoasty/32/2803_2.png) [@SoToasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoToasty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/215 "2023-11-16T23:11:42Z")
Thats what I was unsure of. Its hard to tell nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/216 "2023-11-16T23:36:02Z")
Both of our reps from Montana voted against it. ASSHOLES! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/217 "2023-11-17T20:02:50Z")
Daily Kos has pulled the story because it’s misinformation. It was never a reliable source, it was an unvetted submission from a random community member. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657.md?page=10)