# Government shutdown watch fall 2023 edition **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 5, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657 "2023-09-05T18:05:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/41 "2023-09-22T02:27:29Z")
Matt Gaetz is afraid five moderate Republicans will join 213 Democrats to pass a clean CR, “like shit through a goose.” > ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/42 "2023-09-22T02:29:47Z")
I want Matt Gaetz to explain to the American people why he wants to cut their food stamps. I rely on my food stamps, God damn you. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/43 "2023-09-22T03:09:43Z")
Because to him, by being on food stamps, you inherently must’ve done something to deserve needing food stamps, therefore he’s perfectly justified in not wanting to spend HIS money on you. He doesn’t care if you starve. You’re nobody to him _at best_. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/44 "2023-09-22T11:05:07Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Matt Gaetz is afraid five moderate Republicans will join 213 Democrats to pass a clean CR, “like shit through a goose.” Yet another sonorous, poetical turn of phrase from our elected leaders. Truly, the best of us. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/45 "2023-09-22T11:29:14Z")
[Two New York Republicans say they might work with Democrats to prevent a shutdown.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-molinaro-lawler-democrats-government-shutdown-rcna111469) I don’t know how much support or traction this might receive, but it’s an interesting sign from two freshmen. Of course, I imagine this kind of flirting with bipartisanship over a crisis to draw headlines and raise their profile as being “reasonable” is pretty common. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/46 "2023-09-22T15:01:40Z")
What “show” is he on? Wayne’s World of Guns? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/47 "2023-09-22T15:58:11Z")
Spent this morning in a meeting trying to finagle a way for the contractors to get paid. All the feds will get 100% back pay eventually, but us contractors are shit outta luck unless we can get ourselves designated “essential,” but then that also means we’re exempt from things like snow days, but I can telework in that instance. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/48 "2023-09-22T16:23:11Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > WILL: Well, I agree, but I think Toby would say that lacks poetry. You put that forward and Tommy Tuberville goes on the attack. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/49 "2023-09-22T19:32:29Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > [Two New York Republicans say they might work with Democrats to prevent a shutdown.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-molinaro-lawler-democrats-government-shutdown-rcna111469) You’d think there would have to be AT LEAST a couple of Repubs who lived in districts that were not so batshit crazy that voters would appreciate them acting sanely. Perhaps overlapped with folk who - as much as they like their current job - they don’t want to be complete dishonest whores. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/50 "2023-09-22T19:56:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Of course, I imagine this kind of flirting with bipartisanship over a crisis to draw headlines and raise their profile as being “reasonable” is pretty common. If they were serious, they would have drafted a discharge petition a month ago. Such a bill has to sit in committee for 30 days before it can be voted on. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/51 "2023-09-22T20:06:07Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > You’d think there would have to be AT LEAST a couple of Repubs who lived in districts that were not so batshit crazy that voters would appreciate them acting sanely There are dozens of Republicans who would vote for a “clean” continuing resolution. But it’s the Speaker (or more precisely Republicans on the Rules Committee) who decide whether a bill will make it to the floor and in what form. The most likely endgame is they do end up passing a Senate-passed clean CR after the shutdown has gone on for weeks and the pain gets to be enough where McCarthy finally throws it open to vote. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/52 "2023-09-22T22:20:34Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Spent this morning in a meeting trying to finagle a way for the contractors to get paid. This is totally understandable and hoopy. But here’s the rub. If a government shutdown just means most get a paid day off work then they get easier to call and harder to resolve before some claret gets spilled. What you want is that everybody bleeds EXCEPT the elected House/Senate critters. The government stops. Nobody gets paid. Everybody cops pain and inconvenience. Thereby any who vote for a shutdown understand they are voting to directly piss off the people they need for re-elect. A delayed shutdown becoming electoral suicide, if not a lynching. Well, actually what you want is the acceptance of the notion “The government of the country must go on” and find some effective but less juvenile way to toss the toys out of the sandbox, like we do in say parliamentary systems. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/53 "2023-09-25T00:12:01Z")
The GOP have a plan. Cuts to Social Security, Medicaid, and the SNAP program. Ring Of Fire (4:50) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDuSgtaNvR0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDuSgtaNvR0) ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/54 "2023-09-25T00:43:28Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > What you want is that everybody bleeds EXCEPT the elected House/Senate critters. …yeah, don’t do this. > [@penultima\_thule](#): > > Thereby any who vote for a shutdown understand they are voting to directly piss off the people they need for re-elect. A delayed shutdown becoming electoral suicide, if not a lynching. The people that vote for them _want_ this to happen. And if anything happens to "piss these people off, they will just blame the Democrats for it anyway. Nobody should _bleed_. None of this is rational, it shouldn’t be normalised to any extent. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/55 "2023-09-25T19:17:51Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > Thereby any who vote for a shutdown understand they are voting to directly piss off the people they need for re-elect. Speaking as a federal worker, who has absolutely no ability to help or hinder the re-election of Gaetz and his ilk, but who has collectively been the target of a non-stop smear campaign by the GOP for at least the last 40 years at least. I can firmly state that far from being pissed off, Gaetz’s constituents would take immense joy in having me and my colleagues to suffer as much as possible. Please don’t enable them. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/56 "2023-09-25T23:07:51Z")
Marjorie Traitor Greene is a hard no on two of McCarthy’s spending bills, because he flipped and now supports funding for Ukraine. > **[Marjorie Taylor Greene a 'hard no' on rules package for appropriations bills...](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/as-shutdown-looms-mtg-a-hard-no-on-rules-package)** > > Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) will vote against the rule package for four appropriations bills when it is put up for a vote on Tuesday, citing her opposition to the Ukraine aid in two of the bills, adding to the House’s troubles. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/57 "2023-09-25T23:46:25Z")
So she’s basically just a Russian operative at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/58 "2023-09-26T14:37:36Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Speaking as a federal worker, Same here - but w/ slightly less than 40 yrs in. But I am just so damned tired over this shutdown/continuing resolution/essential personnel bullshit. Just pass a fucking budget or don’t. And if you don’t, shut the whole damn thing down. Maybe minimal support for military in the field, but other than that, no fed workers get paid, no fed benefits/payments go out, etc. Don’t allow it to be played like a game. And - yeah - it might cost more to stop payment of employees/benefits than just continuing them (as has consistently been done in the past). But so be it. Assign that cost to whoever forced the shutdown. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/59 "2023-09-26T17:27:51Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Assign that cost to whoever forced the shutdown. I don’t think Marge and Matt have that much money. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657/60 "2023-09-27T00:30:22Z")
I’m grateful that the senate introduced a bill through Nov 17; all it’s worth is a short statement of appreciation but I’ll give it to them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-watch-fall-2023-edition/989657.md?page=4)