# GovernmentMan, you're creeping everybody out

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 24, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599 "2011-10-24T03:55:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/21 "2011-10-24T16:05:12Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> > What’s a hispter?
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> I’m not surprised you haven’t heard of them. They’re really underground.

That’s a relief. I haven’t heard of them, either, and I was beginning to think they were some sort of add-on to the hips. My hips don’t need the help, they get more than they need from the Butter Crunch ice cream.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/22 "2011-10-24T16:11:22Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> I’m not surprised you haven’t heard of them. They’re really underground.

Oh, yeah. [Below the radar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(contemporary_subculture)), even.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/23 "2011-10-24T18:03:42Z")

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I thought **GovernmentMan** was creepy before he was pitted.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/24 "2011-10-24T18:09:02Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> These are easily some of least creepy posts about lady pictures I’ve ever seen. You want to know who is really creepy?
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> The guy who always posts “Daddy likes.” That’s super creepy.

Who does _that_?!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/25 "2011-10-24T18:09:36Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> I’m not surprised you haven’t heard of them. They’re really underground.

If only.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/26 "2011-10-24T19:01:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Agent Foxtrot]  
I thought GovernmentMan was creepy before he was pitted..  
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You did? Why?

He’s just the mainstream derivative of half a dozen creepier banned or retired posters who were all over the boards in the early and mid-2000s. If I want creepy posts, I’ll go back and read the real stuff.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/27 "2011-10-24T19:12:42Z")

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> [@saoirse](#):
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> You did? Why?.

I’d make a ‘whoosh’ gesture, but nobody does that any more; it’s too mainstream.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/28 "2011-10-24T19:18:00Z")

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I was learning everything I knew about art or sex from some trendy underground fashion magazine years before it was cool.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/29 "2011-10-24T19:22:15Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I’d make a ‘whoosh’ gesture, but nobody does that any more; it’s too mainstream.

**saoirse** was whooshing you before it got popular.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/30 "2011-10-24T19:27:31Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> I’m waiting for the “Is this girl tied up in my basement a hipster”? thread before I judge.

😃  
But you should have added “need answer fast” to it.

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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/31 "2011-10-24T19:52:45Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> The guy who always posts “Daddy likes.” That’s super creepy.

Who does this, and why haven’t I noticed before?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/32 "2011-10-24T19:58:46Z")

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All of a sudden “whimsical” sounded like some frozen dessert used to lure kinds into a van.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/33 "2011-10-24T20:05:58Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> I’m waiting for the “Is this girl tied up in my basement a hipster”? thread before I judge.

Is she pretty underground?

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/34 "2011-10-24T20:40:54Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> **saoirse** was whooshing you before it got popular.

Oh, no. I just started “whooshing,” but only ironically.

Like [this](http://www.flickr.com/photos/69018960@N07/6277367185/in/photostream).

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/35 "2011-10-24T20:41:20Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Should I post the link to the Monty Python ‘wink wink’ vid in this thread too?
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> Because that is what he reminds me of.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure the point of all GovernmentMan’s threads is, “What’s it like?”

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/36 "2011-10-24T21:08:23Z")

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He’s slightly creepy, but it could be a lot worse.

You should have given him more time to blossom into full creepdom before starting this Pit.

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**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/37 "2011-10-24T21:47:31Z")

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Yep, I was also on the verge of starting this thread myself, and would have written basically the same OP as **jjimm**. Personally, I think the creepiest part is the fact that he looks at a few pictures and/or videos of girls who are (ostensibly) strangers, and projects an entire life onto them:

> [@Do you guys like hipster girls like these?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-like-hipster-girls-like-these/599732/1):
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> this girl looks like the typical hipster indie girl you’d see in Brooklyn, Portland, or LA hanging out at cafes, watching foreign and quirky indie films, going to record shops, probably is into arts and crafts, interior design, boutique hotels, photo booths, craft beer, banjos , sea otters and hedgehogs, probably a foodie and plans on living in a vintage airstream some day

> [@Do you guys like hipster girls like these?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-like-hipster-girls-like-these/599732/6):
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> But you can just tell that this girl is the type that enjoys farmers markets, France, bikes, vintage typewriters, film festivals, art shows, vespa scooters, Mcsweeny’s, This American Life, etc

> [@Do you guys like hipster girls like these?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-like-hipster-girls-like-these/599732/55):
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> She looks like the type that would have an apartment that looked like this : [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/O0glj.jpg)

> [@Do you guys like hipster girls like these?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-like-hipster-girls-like-these/599732/65):
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> She probably reads Dwell magazine [http://www.dwell.com/](http://www.dwell.com/)

> [@Can you really find girls like this in small towns and rural areas?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-find-girls-like-this-in-small-towns-and-rural-areas/600583/1):
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> girls who look like they’re full of whimsy and daydream about fanciful reveries , who go barefoot and pick flowers and wear cute dresses?

> [@Can you really find girls like this in small towns and rural areas?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-you-really-find-girls-like-this-in-small-towns-and-rural-areas/600583/9):
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> She looks like the type of girl that would be into fantasy (not high fantasy, which I’m not into, but more into the Alice in Wonderland, Lud in the Mist, type of fantasy full of whimsy, faerie, castles in the sky, myths and folklore).
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> This looks like the opposite of a hipster to me. So charmingly serene and pastoral.
> 
> If girls like these are to be found in small towns, then I just might transfer to a college in one. Can’t find them in the cities.

And actually, it’s not even a \*life \*he’s imagining for these girls, or even a personality, really - just a set of interests. And then, he judges whether or not he likes them based on those interests. It would be like me saying, “Hey everyone, do you like outdoorsy-type guys like this? [http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/AverageMan1.jpg](http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/AverageMan1.jpg)” And then, when everyone rightly asks how in the hell I determined this guy is outdoorsy, I say, “Isn’t it obvious that he’s the type of guy who loves hiking in the forest and riding mountain bikes and fishing, and probably brews his own beer? Where can I find a guy like that?”

It’s just weird.

And it’s especially ridiculous in the case of the “small town girl”, since they are clearly staged photos. In fact - and I _really_ hesitate to even say this, for fear of encouraging him - I searched for them on tineye and found them on the flickr page of the singer/guitarist for the very indie-looking band Eisley, which is apparently popular with… wait for it… [hipsters](http://www.dailynexus.com/2011-05-19/eisley-serenades-crowd-troubador/).

> [@](#):
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> Texas-based indie rock band Eisley performed a sold-out show at the Troubadour in West Hollywood on Sunday. The show was a part of Eisley’s current Turning Tides Tour, promoting their recent release, The Valley.
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> The historic little venue was brimming with plaid trendy L.A. hipsters jerking their side-swept bangs out of their faces and adjusting their snug cardigans.

I think **Bob Ducca** has it [exactly right](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14389316&postcount=32). He’s looking for some kind of quirky, charming fantasy girl who does not exist in nature, and clearly has very limited interaction with actual women. It’s no crime, and hopefully, he’s young and will grow out of it, but it’s defintely creepy.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/38 "2011-10-24T21:50:39Z")

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Part of me thinks that GovernmentMan is part of some kind of viral marketing campaign for the guitarist girl he keeps posting pictures of.

Maybe it’s just that I’d rather believe that.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/39 "2011-10-24T22:00:06Z")

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Am I a hipster?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governmentman-youre-creeping-everybody-out/600599/40 "2011-10-24T22:27:07Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Am I a hipster?

If you have to ask, it’s too subtle for you.

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