# Governor Spitzer caught with his pants down **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 10, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865 "2008-03-10T19:32:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/1 "2008-03-10T19:32:25Z")
[Apparently, quite literally](http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VAONN81&show_article=1). Why do they always think no one will find out? ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/2 "2008-03-10T19:54:11Z")
The information is changing minute by minute so I won’t bother linking to it, but [CNN.com](http://CNN.com) is reporting that a wiretap recorded him arranging for a prostitute himself. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/3 "2008-03-10T20:03:25Z")
[Gamepolitics.com](http://gamepolitics.com/2008/03/10/breaking-video-game-critic-spitzer-involved-in-prostitution-ring/) has an article on the matter, since Spitzer tried to push anti-game legislation. GP provided a handy quotable piece from the guy: > [@Spitzer](#): > > Media content has gotten more graphic, more violent and more sex-based… Currently, nothing under New York State law prohibits a fourteen-year old from walking into a video store and buying… a game like ‘Grand Theft Auto,’ which rewards a player for stealing cars and beating people up. Children can even simulate having sex with a prostitute… It couldn’t happen to a nicer hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/4 "2008-03-10T20:05:23Z")
Is he resigning? The line “I must now dedicate some time to rededicate my trust to my family,” while a bit clunky, could be construed that way, but I don’t think he’s “officially” resigned. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/5 "2008-03-10T20:06:59Z")
[QUOTE=Balance] [Gamepolitics.com](http://gamepolitics.com/2008/03/10/breaking-video-game-critic-spitzer-involved-in-prostitution-ring/) has an article on the matter, since Spitzer tried to push anti-game legislation. GP provided a handy quotable piece from the guy: It couldn’t happen to a nicer hypocrite. [/QUOTE] [apologist] Well, as long as he wasn’t paying his hookers with public funds… [/apologist] ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/6 "2008-03-10T20:16:01Z")
$5,500 an hour? Yow. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/7 "2008-03-10T20:18:00Z")
[QUOTE=Balance] [Gamepolitics.com](http://gamepolitics.com/2008/03/10/breaking-video-game-critic-spitzer-involved-in-prostitution-ring/) has an article on the matter, since Spitzer tried to push anti-game legislation. GP provided a handy quotable piece from the guy: It couldn’t happen to a nicer hypocrite. [/QUOTE] Now, wait a second. I’ve just posted a GD thread in which I’m critical of Spitzer, but where is his hypocrisy here? In the quote you offer, he’s decrying a video game in which CHILDREN can arrange a prostitution liason. It’s not inconsistent of him to inveigh against that and still believe consenting adults should be permitted to hook up with hookers. And while he prosecuted prostitution rings as Attorney General, you cannout confuse his acts as a professional, enforcing the law of his state, with his personal belief. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/8 "2008-03-10T20:20:00Z")
[QUOTE=Balance] It couldn’t happen to a nicer hypocrite. [/QUOTE] I wouldn’t say that that statement was hypocritical. He had issues with _children_ simulating sex with a hooker. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/9 "2008-03-10T20:22:17Z")
Just another example of _Life imitates Sharkey’s Machine._ ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/10 "2008-03-10T20:24:36Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] And while he prosecuted prostitution rings as Attorney General, you cannout confuse his acts as a professional, enforcing the law of his state, with his personal belief. [/QUOTE] While your ability to separate the personal from the professional is laudable, I haven’t noticed you doing this for Republicans/preachers who demonize homosexuals on one hand while secretly engaging in illicit backdoor action themselves on the other. _Quid est distinctus_? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/11 "2008-03-10T20:29:01Z")
What is it with Democrats and their dicks, and Republicans and their wallets? Dems can’t keep their pants zipped and Repubs can’t keep their pockets shut. The whole system needs a fuckin’ enema. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/12 "2008-03-10T20:32:30Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] While your ability to separate the personal from the professional is laudable, I haven’t noticed you doing this for Republicans/preachers who demonize homosexuals on one hand while secretly engaging in illicit backdoor action themselves on the other. _Quid est distinctus_? [/QUOTE] Well, for one thing, vehemently preaching hatred for gays is not by any means required for clergy, whereas if you’re practicing law for the government, you pretty much have to prosecute the cases. To overstretch an analogy, Uncle Sam doesn’t particularly care what you believe as long as you do the job (though that’s less true nowadays), while the Pope most definitely does want to know what you believe, since it should be church doctrine. That sound about right to you, **Bricker**? > [@Chefguy](#): > > What is it with Democrats and their dicks, and Republicans and their wallets? Dems can’t keep their pants zipped and Repubs can’t keep their pockets shut. The whole system needs a fuckin’ enema. A lot of Republicans can’t keep their pants zipped either, as shown by David Vitter and Larry Craig, among many, many others. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/13 "2008-03-10T20:59:57Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] While your ability to separate the personal from the professional is laudable, I haven’t noticed you doing this for Republicans/preachers who demonize homosexuals on one hand while secretly engaging in illicit backdoor action themselves on the other. _Quid est distinctus_? [/QUOTE] Um… are you suggesting in this post that I am giving the Democrats an easier time than I am giving the Republicans? In any event, there’s a distinction between an attorney, whose job it is to advocate for his client – in this case, the people of the state of New York – and a preacher, who is announcing a moral rule and urging his listeners to follow it. The latter case is fairly described as hypocrisy. The former is not. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/14 "2008-03-10T21:08:56Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] …_Quid est distinctus_? [/QUOTE] _ullamne subuculam geris?_ ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/15 "2008-03-10T21:15:58Z")
Can I change my user name to **Client 9**? ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/16 "2008-03-10T21:16:20Z")
Dude is an idiot and a hypocrite. As much as I’d like that to be the bastion of one political party, it ain’t. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/17 "2008-03-10T21:17:17Z")
[QUOTE=BMalion] _ullamne subuculam geris?_ [/QUOTE] _Semper ubi sub ubi._ [QUOTE=Bricker] Um… are you suggesting in this post that I am giving the Democrats an easier time than I am giving the Republicans? In any event, there’s a distinction between an attorney, whose job it is to advocate for his client – in this case, the people of the state of New York – and a preacher, who is announcing a moral rule and urging his listeners to follow it. [/QUOTE] Ironic, isn’t it, that you of all people should be accused of favoritism toward the Democrats? In this case, though, yes. You know very well that state Attorneys General can pretty much pick and choose what sort of entrenched crime to ignore and which to crack down on. Spitzer apparently made a point of going after hookers, or at least large-scale hooking, while engaging the services of hookers himself. Don’t get me wrong; I love the guy, and frankly I couldn’t give a crap what he does with his free time. I just think you can make a very good case that he’s a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/18 "2008-03-10T22:01:56Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker] Now, wait a second. I’ve just posted a GD thread in which I’m critical of Spitzer, but where is his hypocrisy here? In the quote you offer, he’s decrying a video game in which CHILDREN can arrange a prostitution liason. It’s not inconsistent of him to inveigh against that and still believe consenting adults should be permitted to hook up with hookers. [/QUOTE] The character in the game is not a child, the game is not written for children, and the game is marked with an ESRB rating that indicates that it is not suitable for children (M–equivalent to an R rating for movies). He is decrying a video game which depicts an _adult_ arranging a liaison with a prostitute. Bashing a piece of fiction for depicting something that you actually do smacks of hypocrisy to me. I take no issue with the bulk of his professional record–I’m not familiar enough with it to criticize it–nor do I particularly care about his private pastimes. I just find his attempt to wrap his political aims in the now-stained and -tattered “Think of the Children” banner contemptible. ---
**Author:** ![Mongo\_Ponton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Mongo\_Ponton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mongo_Ponton)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/19 "2008-03-10T22:02:49Z")
I guess that whole “Art Vandalay” thing didn’t work out. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/20 "2008-03-10T22:10:22Z")
The exchanges between **RNATB** and **BMalion** remind me of that scene in _Tombstone_. Translation please. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865.md?page=2)