# Governor Spitzer caught with his pants down **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 10, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865 "2008-03-10T19:32:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/101 "2008-03-12T04:17:34Z")
Spitzer’s father is a billionaire. The money just doesn’t seem like as much to them as it does to us. $15K to Spitzer is like 15 bucks to the rest of us. As long as you _have_ the money, you might as well pay for the best. I also think it goes without saying that discretion is part of what they’re paying for. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/102 "2008-03-12T04:20:20Z")
So what do you get for 5k anyway? What makes those girls different from a $500 hooker? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/103 "2008-03-12T04:21:27Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] So what do you get for 5k anyway? What makes those girls different from a $500 hooker? [/QUOTE] Or a $50 one, for that matter. Better hygiene, teeth and conversation—and what? Better acting? nicer hotel rooms? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/104 "2008-03-12T04:31:31Z")
Why are Seals & Crofts running through my mind… _"[Seven] Diamond Girl…you sure do shine…such a rare thing…_" Oh, wait…now it’s Robert Palmer: \* “She’s so fine, there’s no tellin’ where the money went!”\* ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/105 "2008-03-12T04:53:44Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] Or a $50 one, for that matter. Better hygiene, teeth and conversation—and what? Better acting? nicer hotel rooms? :dubious: [/QUOTE] Well, I can see the difference between a hotel bar hooker and a crack whore, but $5000 plus travel expenses seems a little much. Surely you could get an attractive local girl for less. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/106 "2008-03-12T12:17:02Z")
One of the transcripts said something about the Gov. possibly wanting to do things the girl wouldn’t consider “safe”. Maybe that’s why you pay more. I found it funny that another transcript had a prospective employee declining to join the firm because she was given to understand that she might have to do it twice in a session to earn her $500 an hour (the starter rate, I presume), and that was just beyond the pale. She said she earned more on photo shoots. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/107 "2008-03-12T14:04:47Z")
[QUOTE=kittenblue] One of the transcripts said something about the Gov. possibly wanting to do things the girl wouldn’t consider “safe”. Maybe that’s why you pay more. [/QUOTE] And that might mean he wanted to go condomless. \ > [@](#): > > I found it funny that another transcript had a prospective employee declining to join the firm because she was given to understand that she might have to do it twice in a session to earn her $500 an hour (the starter rate, I presume), and that was just beyond the pale. She said she earned more on photo shoots. I may have a limited imagination, but I’ve always wondered about stuff like this: so, what does one say to one’s niece or nephew or son or daughter–when they ask what Mommy did before having kids? Can’t you see the breakfast table? Backpacks ready, hair shining, expectant faces ready for Career Day and then the Question: “What job did you do, Mommy? Betsy’s mommy was --something with computers. Mary’s mommy was a lawyer.” “well, honey. Mommy performed oral sex and took 2 men at once for lots and lots of money. That’s how we can afford to live here and mommy doesn’t have to work.” “But Betsy’s mom and Mary’s mom don’t work.” \ ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/108 "2008-03-12T14:39:11Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] So what do you get for 5k anyway? What makes those girls different from a $500 hooker? [/QUOTE] No kidding! As a woman, if I rent a man with a 5K pricetag, after the good lovin’ he better be putting a new roof on my house. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/109 "2008-03-12T15:00:58Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] No kidding! As a woman, if I rent a man with a 5K pricetag, after the good lovin’ he better be putting a new roof on my house. [/QUOTE] And he must know the Magic Phrase, better than the best foreplay, ever: “Here, let me get that/do that for you.” \ ---
**Author:** ![Radegast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@Radegast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Radegast)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/110 "2008-03-12T15:34:22Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] No kidding! As a woman, if I rent a man with a 5K pricetag, after the good lovin’ he better be putting a new roof on my house. [/QUOTE] Jodi – I was thinking along the same lines. Somehow this situation gives new meaning to the old joke about the prostitute who offered to do “anything” for $500, and the man responded “Here’s your $500, now paint my house.” I would certainly expect the new roof for $5500. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/111 "2008-03-12T16:42:47Z")
I think that in addition to $5,500 being chump change to a multimillionaire, the appeal is quite clear–the guy gets a hot young chick who will do whatever he wants, however he wants, without complaint. At the end the hour or whatever, she leaves: he doesn’t have to pretend he cares about her, he doesn’t have to have a conversation with her, he doesn’t have to listen to her bitch about how he hasn’t painted the bathroom or hasn’t taken out the garbage or is a jerk to her mother, etc., etc., etc. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/112 "2008-03-12T16:54:50Z")
[QUOTE=kittenblue] One of the transcripts said something about the Gov. possibly wanting to do things the girl wouldn’t consider “safe”. Maybe that’s why you pay more. [/QUOTE] I don’t know, but I imagine the very definition of “unsafe” when you’re a sitting governor is being busted for your involvement in a high-end prostitution ring… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/113 "2008-03-12T17:02:51Z")
I wish people )(especially in the media) would quit saying he was “involved in the ring.” That makes it sound (intentionally, I’m sure) like he was actually involve in running the girls. I don’t consider the customers to be “involved” in the operation. If I go see a movie, am I “involved” in the movie business? If I buy a shirt am I “involved” in the fashion industry? The repeated statement that Spitzer was 'involved in a prostitution ring" is so misleading, so cheap and so calculated that it’s one of the reasons I smell Rove. It sounds exactly like the way he manipulates the language. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/114 "2008-03-12T17:16:38Z")
Aaand it’s over. He’s [resigned](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/nyregion/12cnd-resign.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin), effective Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/115 "2008-03-12T17:46:55Z")
[Sheldon Silver] “Governor, l’d like a word with you about this new ‘jobs program’. Look, I want to keep jobs from going overseas as much as the next guy, but you go too far, Elliott…” [/Sheldon Silver] ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/116 "2008-03-12T18:24:04Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] No kidding! As a woman, if I rent a man with a 5K pricetag, after the good lovin’ he better be putting a new roof on my house. [/QUOTE] Seriously…women who have never been street prostitutes, get screened very regularly for disease, take very few clients, are young and extraordinarily good looking, are capable of having a conversation on a variety of current events, books, literature, often have or are working on college degrees and don’t have addiction issues. A woman who shows up in $500 shoes carrying a $400 purse, with a dress to match, and who spends her free time (which she doesn’t have much) in the gym. High priced hookers are like geishas - you don’t walk into the job. Or at least - that is what these agencies try to hire. For $50 you often get a girl who needs to make rent and probably won’t because she’ll spend it on drugs anyway. Who buys second hand Target shoes at Goodwill. Who is barely literate. And who has never used a stairmaster and doesn’t read the New York Times. Unless she is an undercover cop - and even then she probably doesn’t read the NY Times. I used to work for an executive who used prostitutes on the $300-$3000 scale. Made a few of those phone calls. Met one or two of them. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/117 "2008-03-13T00:20:05Z")
i read the mayflower madam’s book. her women were very, very, screened (med., psyc., education, ability to keep secrets) and told how to dress and act. the book was quite an interesting read. she set up her business like it was a fortune 500 company, and treated her employees like they were executives. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/118 "2008-03-13T01:53:02Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] So what do you get for 5k anyway? What makes those girls different from a $500 hooker? [/QUOTE] He’s buying silence. The high price is to insure confidentiality for high-octane clients; sort of an unspoken blackmail. Unfortunately, the dumb bastard made his calls on his own phone, instead of buying a one-time or using a public phone. What a fookin’ moron. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/119 "2008-03-13T03:33:24Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] He’s buying silence. The high price is to insure confidentiality for high-octane clients; sort of an unspoken blackmail. Unfortunately, the dumb bastard made his calls on his own phone, instead of buying a one-time or using a public phone. What a fookin’ moron. [/QUOTE] And wired money instead of giving cash. That’s what got him. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865/120 "2008-03-13T03:50:21Z")
[QUOTE=Siam Sam] And if you stick to the blowjob bars, you can double that number easily. Man, I just can’t understand rich people. [/QUOTE] And they drive the prices up for the broke ass schlubs too! umm… wait… Enjoy, Steven [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/governor-spitzer-caught-with-his-pants-down/440865.md?page=7)