# Grabbing someone's dick while peeing is a real turn on?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 16, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032 "2004-08-16T02:08:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/21 "2004-08-16T04:40:38Z")

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Sorry, that was addressed to **Brutus** (as should be obvious, I suppose).

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/22 "2004-08-16T04:40:40Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> No. Sorry. A grope does not give you free license to beat a person unconscious.
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> Imagine the dick grabber is a woman. Would you still be justified in bashing her head repeatedly into a urinal until she was unconscious?
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> Only if you’re a violent scumbag.

IMHO, the scene as laid out by **Shagnasty** amounts to sexual assault, not a simple grope. More power to him for protecting himself (and others).

If it had been a woman, I might have tried the “Hey, WTF, NO!” initial response, but if she had persisted she might have ended up making close contact with the urnial as well. Not a situation where you have a lot of time to evaluate your assauter. Whether it be male, female, or female impersonator the same rules apply - **urinal advances are never welcome**.

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**Author:** ![Searching\_For\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Searching\_For\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Searching_For_Truth)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/23 "2004-08-16T04:41:27Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> First of all FuckFace there was more to it than that. The guy grabbed my father from behind and grabbed his upper body with one arm and tried to grab his dick with the other. My father was obviously pissing at the time so it took a second to stop the flow. The guy hard a large, hard hairbrush in his hand that was around my father’s body for some reason. When my father went to break free, the guy bashed him in the face with the brush. A struggle started and my father finally bashed his head into the urinal but the guy continued to fight. My father still couldn’t break free so he did it again. Same result. Finally, he hit his head hard enough to knock him unconscious. Only then was he free.

Wow.

What a horrible experience for your father and your family. Knowing a few more details makes this episode a lot more legitimate to me. I envisioned your father’s attacker as backing off immediately, such as the OP’s attacker did. Knowing what you just told me now makes a big difference.

I’m sorry if you are offended by others’ reactions, including my own. Perhaps I jumped to conclusions too quickly; I assumed that your father’s situation mirrored the OP’s more closely.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/24 "2004-08-16T04:42:50Z")

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Oh, and **Shagnasty**? There’s no fucking reason in the world to go nuclear when _you didn’t tell the whole story_. Fuck, you think people read minds 'round here?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/25 "2004-08-16T04:43:16Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Why would it take so little for you to go roid-rage? Don’t you think there’s a middle ground between lying back and thinking of England and putting some drunk idiot in the hospital?

So _little_? I generally think sexual assault is adequate grounds for a beat-down. Again: if it were **Shagnasty** who had beaten the crap out of the guy, would you be saying the same thing about her?

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**Author:** ![Searching\_For\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Searching\_For\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Searching_For_Truth)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/26 "2004-08-16T04:45:32Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Bolding mine.
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> :eek:
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> A _stranger_ grabbing your _love-sack_ in a _public restroom_ is pretty fucking threatening, no two ways about it. What the hell does it take to goad some of you into defending yourselves?

**Brutus** , I didn’t read **Shagnasty** ’s second post until I had already hit “submit.” Since he didn’t make it clear that the extent of the assault, I was assuming that the incident was a bit more innocuous.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/27 "2004-08-16T04:45:57Z")

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**Shagnasty** , I have to wonder if you deliberately presented your father’s story in a manner calculated to piss people off. “Some guy reached for my johnson” is markedly _not_ “the exact same thing” as

> [@](#):
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> The guy grabbed my father from behind and grabbed his upper body with one arm and tried to grab his dick with the other. My father was obviously pissing at the time so it took a second to stop the flow. The guy hard a large, hard hairbrush in his hand that was around my father’s body for some reason. When my father went to break free, the guy bashed him in the face with the brush. A struggle started and my father finally bashed his head into the urinal but the guy continued to fight. My father still couldn’t break free so he did it again. Same result. Finally, he hit his head hard enough to knock him unconscious. Only then was he free.

The former is not a violent attack and beating the attacker unconscious would definitely be a gross over-reaction and the act of a violent homophobic asshole. The latter is defending oneself with enough force to stop an ongoing violent attack.

I have no quarrel with your father’s defense of himself (and I’m a pacifist who eschews violence in all instances except self-defense and the defense of others). But if you didn’t know that presenting his knocking someone out for what you initially said was nothing more than an attempted dick grab was going to get you some shit then you’re, well, to be kind, you’re not being realistic. Alternatively, if you believe that the two incidents were really “the exact same thing” then you’re completely fucked in the head.

To the OP, not to excuse an unwanted sexual advance and not to blame you in any way but next time lock the door.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/28 "2004-08-16T04:46:14Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Why would it take so little for you to go roid-rage?

I sure that you have ‘so little’ to fight for, but I am quite pleased with my nether-bits, and do not want strangers having-at them. Incapacitate the bastard and get out of there, nothing wrong with that.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/29 "2004-08-16T04:47:55Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> So _little_? I generally think sexual assault is adequate grounds for a beat-down. Again: if it were **Shagnasty** who had beaten the crap out of the guy, would you be saying the same thing about her?

I was actually referring to **Brutus** ’s first post, before the full **Shagnasty** story. Sorry for the confusion.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/30 "2004-08-16T04:47:57Z")

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**Diogenes** , sorry, but I don’t see physically fighting off and subduing someone who is trying to rape you as being wrong.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/31 "2004-08-16T04:48:20Z")

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I think \*\*Shagnasty \*\* father’s assailant can consider himself lucky that it wasn’t a case of like daughter like father, name-wise, anyways.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/32 "2004-08-16T04:49:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’d’ve done the same thing (or tried to, anyway) and I’m partial to the idea of a guy grabbing my cock, provided he asks first.

Hey **Miller** , I got a quick question for ya…

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/33 "2004-08-16T04:49:47Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> I sure that you have ‘so little’ to fight for, but I am quite pleased with my nether-bits, and do not want strangers having-at them. Incapacitate the bastard and get out of there, nothing wrong with that.

Er, why not just do as **Road Rash** did in the OP? Again, just talking about some druck fucker reaching for **Brutus Jr** , do you think that deserves a beating?

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**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/34 "2004-08-16T04:50:22Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> **Diogenes** , sorry, but I don’t see physically fighting off and subduing someone who is trying to rape you as being wrong.

Er, the post that **DtC** was replying to was most definitely not a case of fending off a rape. **Shagnasty** left out many, many details in his first post.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/35 "2004-08-16T04:51:02Z")

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Er, just wanted another post starting with “Er.” 😃

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/36 "2004-08-16T04:51:56Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> The former is not a violent attack

**Bullshit**  
If the same guy had walked into the ladies room and grabbed a girl by the crotch while she was peeing, would that be a violent act?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/37 "2004-08-16T04:55:22Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> I was actually referring to **Brutus** ’s first post, before the full **Shagnasty** story. Sorry for the confusion.

I didn’t realize you hadn’t read it yet, so sorry on my end, too.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/38 "2004-08-16T04:56:09Z")

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Read the post again, **Flickster**. “Reached for” != “grabbed.”

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/39 "2004-08-16T04:56:44Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Er, why not just do as **Road Rash** did in the OP? Again, just talking about some druck fucker reaching for **Brutus Jr** , do you think that deserves a beating?

If I had time to play Secret Service to my little ‘VIP’, then a down-and-out beating may not be in order. But if said VIP has been grabbed, all bets are off.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/40 "2004-08-16T04:57:13Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I didn’t realize you hadn’t read it yet, so sorry on my end, too.

I’m not used to fast-moving threads any more. I’m out of practice.

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