# Grabbing someone's dick while peeing is a real turn on?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 16, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032 "2004-08-16T02:08:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/81 "2004-08-16T07:21:32Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> And to think that this whole stupid thread could have been avoided if people would just keep their hands to themselves instead of just deciding that it’s OK to grab some stranger’s pappy. If it happened to me I’d be a fighting mofo, and it has nothing to do with homosexuality and everything to do with assault. “Gay panic” my butt. I don’t care if it’s a woman. Someone grabs my package in public just because they feel like it and it’s go time.

What do you mean by “go time?” What would constitute an appropriate response in your mind and what would be going too far?

Would you beat a woman unconscious? Would you kill her?

Look, I’m not saying you have to be nice to a person who does that, or that you have to allow it.

A slap of the hand and a “get the fuck away from me” is an appropriate response. If the person stops at that point then no further force is justified.

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/82 "2004-08-16T07:38:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> If the person stops at that point then no further force is justified.

Wait.

I can walk right behind a girl into the bathroom and grab her titty, and all she’s allowed to do is slap my hand and say “get the fuck away from me”? If I then stop trying to grab her titty, she has no further recourse?

Cool! Time to get to work!

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/83 "2004-08-16T07:39:28Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> What do you mean by “go time?” What would constitute an appropriate response in your mind and what would be going too far?

Depends upon whether my reaction leads to some more aggression on the behalf of my attacker.

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> Would you beat a woman unconscious? Would you kill her?

Again, it depends upon what the result of my reaction is. I really can’t say, except to say that I am in agreement with you about proportionality of response for the most part.

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> A slap of the hand and a “get the fuck away from me” is an appropriate response. If the person stops at that point then no further force is justified.

You forgot about the part where the cops are called and the guy/girl is hauled off for sexual assault or whatever the charge is.

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/84 "2004-08-16T07:39:41Z")

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Nevermind, I don’t want to fight.

You didn’t say, “no further recourse”, rather “no further _force_”.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/85 "2004-08-16T07:41:58Z")

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> [@Eleusis](#):
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> Wait.
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> I can walk right behind a girl into the bathroom and grab her titty, and all she’s allowed to do is slap my hand and say “get the fuck away from me”? If I then stop trying to grab her titty, she has no further recourse?
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> Cool! Time to get to work!

I didn’t say she has no further recourse. What I’m saying is that she is no longer justified in using _physical force._

Like **Airman** said, _legal_ recourse is a whole different matter.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/86 "2004-08-16T07:43:14Z")

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Simulpost.

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/87 "2004-08-16T07:43:37Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I didn’t say she has no further recourse. What I’m saying is that she is no longer justified in using _physical force._
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> Like **Airman** said, _legal_ recourse is a whole different matter.

Cool enough. Thanks for not flying off the handle before reading my second post.

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**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/88 "2004-08-16T07:46:03Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> You are not going to believe this but the exact same thing happened to my father when my whole family was eating at a restaraunt.

Well, you’re right about one thing. I think your first iteration of the story is simply a fantasy of what you’ve always hoped you’d do if one of those sick faggots mauled your goodies. Not least because I have a hard time believing a strong enough argument for self defence could be made that charges wouldn’t be worth pursuing. Some of the other legal details sound fishy too.

The sequel (because they really are two different stories) was an hysterical and shocked reaction to the disapproval you just didn’t expect to be coming. I’m thinking you were expecting people to be commending your father and lots of cheers of _right on!_

I think it is largely ineffectual, impotent guys that work up these scenarios in their heads so there’s no real need to worry about them but if Dadnasty really did do this then he should have done some time. Can people have their head repeatedly slammed into a urinal and _not_ be tremendously fucked up by it?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/89 "2004-08-16T07:47:18Z")

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> [@Gest](#):
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> Can people have their head repeatedly slammed into a urinal and _not_ be tremendously fucked up by it?

Yes. Don’t ask how I know.

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**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/90 "2004-08-16T07:51:28Z")

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OK, I won’t ask but just assume. I _will_ ask if you’ve had a doctor confirm it though? 🙂

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/91 "2004-08-16T10:07:37Z")

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Gosh it really is nicer in the ladies ‘powder room’, much less yelling.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/92 "2004-08-16T10:31:14Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> I’m just playing ‘throw out massively overused and incorrectly used PC attack words’ with **Otto**.

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up so I don’t waste my time replying to your ludicrous initial non-response. Thanks also for showing us that you own your own homophobia.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/93 "2004-08-16T10:35:55Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Ah. Thanks for clearing that up so I don’t waste my time replying to your ludicrous initial non-response. Thanks also for showing us that you own your own homophobia.

You know **Brutus** just likes stirring the pot.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/94 "2004-08-16T10:48:14Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Ah. Thanks for clearing that up so I don’t waste my time replying to your ludicrous initial non-response. Thanks also for showing us that you own your own homophobia.

You must like the sound of that word, since you sure as fuck have no idea what it means.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/95 "2004-08-16T10:49:43Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> You know **Brutus** just likes stirring the pot.

Not at all. I just have a serious problem with the concept that reacting violently to sexual assault makes someone a ‘homophobe’.

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**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/96 "2004-08-16T10:59:14Z")

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Do you feel there are crimes apart from sexual assault where a response needn’t be limited to what is proportionate?

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/97 "2004-08-16T11:03:13Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Not at all. I just have a serious problem with the concept that reacting violently to sexual assault makes someone a ‘homophobe’.

Oh don’t get me wrong sexual assault is a serious thing. I don’t know that we all react violently though (even if we should). I was just talking about your “cheeky” way of chucking the word racist into the mix.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/98 "2004-08-16T11:11:16Z")

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> [@Gest](#):
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> Do you feel there are crimes apart from sexual assault where a response needn’t be limited to what is proportionate?

Unanswerable, really. Different situations generally call for different responses. We are talking about a very specific situation here.

Some people here need to use some fucking common sense. When your naughty bits are grabbed while you are standing at a urinal, a elbow back and into the face of the golden-shower Casanova would certainly strike me as a ‘common sense’ response. A person is not going to ask nicely, “Sir, the weiner you are holding appears to be mine; Would you kindly unhand it?”

Hey, if getting your periscope grabbed while taking a leak (or doing the grabbing, for that matter) is what gets you going, fine. But just like enthustiasts of the Dirty Sanchez are best practicing their kink in the privacy of their own homes, leaky-pipe grabbers would do well to try the same. Or have some sort of club where half the people grab rods while the other half pees. Doing it in a public environment is pretty much guaranteed to evoke a harsh reaction from the non-‘Unit grabbed while peeing’ fetishists.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/99 "2004-08-16T11:12:00Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> No. Sorry. A grope does not give you free license to beat a person unconscious.
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> Imagine the dick grabber is a woman. Would you still be justified in bashing her head repeatedly into a urinal until she was unconscious?
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> Only if you’re a violent scumbag.

Suppose the grabber was a man, and the grabee was a woman. Then what?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2004, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grabbing-someones-dick-while-peeing-is-a-real-turn-on/260032/100 "2004-08-16T11:14:28Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> Oh don’t get me wrong sexual assault is a serious thing. I don’t know that we all react violently though (even if we should). I was just talking about your “cheeky” way of chucking the word racist into the mix.

Oh, well then. I thought you were getting _Brutophobic_ on me…

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