# Gracepoint/Broadchurch? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 2, 2014, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174 "2014-10-02T11:55:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/1 "2014-10-02T11:55:17Z")
…both with David Tennant? This sounds like a total remake. I liked _Broadchurch_, but wasn’t that just last year? I mean, I still remember who did it. Shouldn’t a story be allowed to cool off a bit before the remake? Is Tennant going to adopt an American accent? I don’t get network TV, so I’ll have to wait to have a look at the show. What am I not understanding about this? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/2 "2014-10-02T11:58:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > …both with David Tennant? Yes. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This sounds like a total remake. Yes. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I liked _Broadchurch_, but wasn’t that just last year? Yes. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I mean, I still remember who did it. Shouldn’t a story be allowed to cool off a bit before the remake? Yes. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Is Tennant going to adopt an American accent? Yes. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t get network TV, so I’ll have to wait to have a look at the show. What am I not understanding about this? You understand it perfectly. An unnecessary remake. I recommend you wait for the UK sequel which will be out soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/3 "2014-10-02T12:20:55Z")
BLUF: It was not made for people like you who have already seen it. It was on BBC America. Although I’m sure the number of houses it is available in is on the rise it is still on a station many won’t watch or know much about. Even though viewership is now fractured, the Big Four are still the Big Four. A lot more people will get the chance to see the American production. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/4 "2014-10-02T13:27:55Z")
Just so’s I understand. I can be pretty dense and overlook the obvious. **GuanoLad** , I like your attention to detail. There was an ongoing discussion of \*\*Broadchurch \*\*on the SDMB while it was on. One more question: is the David Tennant character going to be the rude, mopey, asshole he was in **Broadchurch**? ETA: I looked up BLUF. Two possible meanings-- “Breeches & Leather Fanclub” or “Bottom Line Up Front.” I’m going with the former. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/5 "2014-10-02T13:50:47Z")
The makers of Gracepoint have stated that, while it’s mostly going to be a direct remake of Broadchurch, the murderer is going to be someone different. Unless, of course, that’s the twist! You’re expecting someone different, but they make it the same person! OooOOOooh! ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/6 "2014-10-02T14:10:00Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > The makers of Gracepoint have stated that, while it’s mostly going to be a direct remake of Broadchurch, the murderer is going to be someone different. Unless, of course, that’s the twist! You’re expecting someone different, but they make it the same person! OooOOOooh! I’m pretty sure I read a review somewhere in which the reviewer had seen the first seven episodes, and said things are different in the 7th episode, but up until that point things are pretty much the same. So people who have seen Broadchurch could just skip the first six episodes and watch the last few if they’re curious about how things are different. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/7 "2014-10-02T15:09:55Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > An unnecessary remake. Not really. There are some folks who haven’t been able to see Broadchurch. Those of us that don’t have BBC America and don’t want to spend $20 to watch it in HD (it isn’t on streaming). So I’ll be watching. I likely won’t ever get to see Broadchurch, so this would be as close I get to it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/8 "2014-10-02T17:34:56Z")
Or they could save a bunch of money and just license the original for broadcast in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/9 "2014-10-02T17:41:42Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Or they could save a bunch of money and just license the original for broadcast in the U.S. This already happened on BBC America. It’s not a super-obscure cable channel, but it is much harder to get than Fox. Also, **ThelmaLou** , how can you not have access to network TV? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/10 "2014-10-02T17:54:37Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > This already happened on BBC America. It’s not a super-obscure cable channel, but it is much harder to get than Fox. Yes. I meant broadcast channel. Fox could have just bought a license to show the original, without having to go to the expense of re-filming the series and paying for a license to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/11 "2014-10-02T18:08:20Z")
But the folks in charge of Network TV are convinced that the average viewer will refuse to watch a show full of novelty accents. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/12 "2014-10-02T18:08:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Yes. I meant broadcast channel. Fox could have just bought a license to show the original, without having to go to the expense of re-filming the series and paying for a license to do it. I’m guessing Fox would make more money fully owning all of the rights (including all the money from DVD sales), rather than rebroadcasting something. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/13 "2014-10-02T18:11:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > ETA: I looked up BLUF. Two possible meanings-- “Breeches & Leather Fanclub” or “Bottom Line Up Front.” I’m going with the former. Heh. I hope that we _do_ get confirmation of what meaning of BLUF the post-writer intended. Spoilers for _Broadchurch_ under the tags: > [@Loach](#): > > Even though viewership is now fractured, the Big Four are still the Big Four. A lot more people will get the chance to see the American production. There’s potentially a big built-in audience for this remake. The casting of Anna Gunn was far from casual or random. Those who enjoyed the decisive _Broadchurch_ [SPOILER] relegation of the lead female character to her Proper Place (by humiliating her thoroughly–she’s a _detective,_ yet managed to miss that her own husband was the killer!)–probably overlap with those who hated _Breaking Bad_’s Skyler. I’m assuming here that the makers of the American version hope to leave their audience pleased and satisfied by the new ending. And that probably means that we can count on Gunn’s character being brought low: either she’ll again demonstrate incompetence (as in the UK version) by missing that the killer is Her Own Son or Her Own Something Else (or Her Own Husband, in the ‘double fake-out’ theory of the remake); or she herself will turn out to be the killer.[/SPOILER] ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/14 "2014-10-02T21:02:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > ETA: I looked up BLUF. Two possible meanings-- “Breeches & Leather Fanclub” or “Bottom Line Up Front.” I’m going with the former. Both work. I’ll leave it up to you. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/15 "2014-10-02T21:15:28Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Also, **ThelmaLou** , how can you not have access to network TV? What I meant was that I don’t have access to broadcast network TV. I got rid of my satellite/cable and got a Roku (internet content only). I have an indoor antenna, but the reception is crap. The only station I really get well is the local PBS station, which is fine with me. I never watched many network shows anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/16 "2014-10-02T22:12:30Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What I meant was that I don’t have access to broadcast network TV. I got rid of my satellite/cable and got a Roku (internet content only). I have an indoor antenna, but the reception is crap. The only station I really get well is the local PBS station, which is fine with me. I never watched many network shows anyway. Your Roku is hooked up to the Internet isn’t it? Broadcast shows are about the only ones you can be sure to get through streaming services like Hulu. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/17 "2014-10-02T22:37:56Z")
I won’t watch the new show until I hear there is a reason to. I will probably just get spoiled on who the murderer is because I’m curious what they’ll pick, assuming they are telling the truth about changing it. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Shouldn’t a story be allowed to cool off a bit before the remake? [Shouldn’t a thread be allowed to cool off a bit before a remake?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=733834) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/18 "2014-10-02T22:38:54Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Your Roku is hooked up to the Internet isn’t it? Broadcast shows are about the only ones you can be sure to get through streaming services like Hulu. In my OP I said: “I don’t get network TV, so I’ll have to wait to have a look at the show.” What I meant was that I don’t sit down at X:00 PM on a Thursday and tune in my TV to a broadcast network like FOX or ABC and watch a show on its first run. Yeah, I can look up the show later through a streaming service if I’m interested enough. For example, I don’t have DirecTV anymore so I don’t get AMC. The day after _Mad Men_ airs on AMC, I go to Amazon and pay $1.99 to watch the previous night’s episode. Since I don’t get FOX through the ether because my indoor antenna is not that good and I’m not interested enough to get a good one, I can go to some streaming service the day after \*Gracepoint \*airs and watch it, if I’m so inclined. That’s what I meant when I said, “I’ll have to wait to have a look at the show.” IOW, I will not be watching it as it airs on network TV for the first time; I will have to wait until it shows up on a streaming service. Is there some piece of the puzzle that I’m not seeing? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/19 "2014-10-02T22:51:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Since I don’t get FOX through the ether because my indoor antenna is not that good and I’m not interested enough to get a good one, I can go to some streaming service the day after \*Gracepoint \*airs and watch it, if I’m so inclined. That’s what I meant when I said, “I’ll have to wait to have a look at the show.” IOW, I will not be watching it as it airs on network TV for the first time; I will have to wait until it shows up on a streaming service. > > Is there some piece of the puzzle that I’m not seeing? Sorry, I just never thought of that as “waiting.” Between DVR, On Demand, and streaming options, even the networks don’t consider that waiting anymore. If you watch the show within a month of the first airing, they’re happy. And I was also super-confused about you saying you don’t get network TV since Hulu carries 99% of all network shows. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174/20 "2014-10-02T23:19:31Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Yes. I meant broadcast channel. Fox could have just bought a license to show the original, without having to go to the expense of re-filming the series and paying for a license to do it. > [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > But the folks in charge of Network TV are convinced that the average viewer will refuse to watch a show full of novelty accents. Any broadcast of the same show would be under threat of the name of the killer being thrown around the internet beforehand. Thats around 10 to 20% of the audience being pissed off straight away. I suspect the name change also reduces the chance of casual internet users finding out the identity of the killer. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gracepoint-broadchurch/700174.md?page=2)