# Grade A Students: No Donuts for You! More Political Correctness Kills Fun
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 27, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800 "2004-08-27T15:53:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/21 "2004-08-27T17:21:02Z")
I have difficulty seeing how this program is any different than the free tokens you get a Chuck E. Cheese’s for good grades, or the Pizza Hut “Book It!” program they had when I was in grade school (read enough books, get free pizza).
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### Author:  [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/22 "2004-08-27T17:23:08Z")
A school is under no obligation to give a company a free hand and credibility in a marketing ploy. Especially when the product involved has no educational or nutritional value.
So Palm Beach, Florida schools are completely in the right.
And is it just me that has a problem with the idea of “Crispy Cream”? No matter how you want to spell it, it sounds like that cream is **off** to the most revolting degree.
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/23 "2004-08-27T17:26:33Z")
> [@Colophon](#):
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> “I’m a lazy slob that will eat anything brightly coloured and full of lard that I see on a poster.”
Oh boy, here we go again…
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### Author:  [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/24 "2004-08-27T17:26:48Z")
Maybe a local grocery store could start a “Celery Stalk Per ‘A’” program? Everyone would be happy!
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### Author:  [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/25 "2004-08-27T17:47:38Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> This is the stupidest thing I’ve seen all day. The OP, not the article. If parents want to stuff their kids with donuts, great. But schools have no obligation to do any such thing or reward anybody for grades.
As I understand it, the schools aren’t rewarding the kids, Krispy Kreme is.
I used to get a free personal pan pizza every month for **reading** which I was doing anyway. My mom rewarded my brother with $5 for every A on his report card because he was an A student making Cs. I was an A student making As, and so I got nothing tangible, but I got more personal freedom, privileges, less forced homework time, etc.
I don’t mind rewards for good grades, _when the situation warrants it_. The money made my brother try harder, and got him interested in writing, which is what he does now. These “one for every A” deals showered me with gifts, because with seven-nine classes a semester and quarterly grading, I was privy to a TON of free stuff (none of which I would share with my brother, naturally:D )
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/26 "2004-08-27T17:55:10Z")
We should be very clear that Krispy Kreme is not doing this to promote scholarship in youngsters but rather it is a promotion to sell more doughnuts. The fact that the principal does not want to help Krispy Kreme sell more doughnuts shows that the principals have some principles.
Personally I’m against advertising in schools.
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### Author:  [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/27 "2004-08-27T19:42:19Z")
> [@Zebra](#):
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> We should be very clear that Krispy Kreme is not doing this to promote scholarship in youngsters but rather it is a promotion to sell more doughnuts. The fact that the principal does not want to help Krispy Kreme sell more doughnuts shows that the principals have some principles.
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> Personally I’m against advertising in schools.
Bingo!
One correct statement made by **Philster** in this thread is that the public schools are public institutions. And, as such, they are not morally obligated to provide large corporations with free space to promote commercial interests to a captive audience of students.
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### Author:  [@Trigonal\_Planar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trigonal_Planar)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/28 "2004-08-27T20:05:45Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> ☹ All I ever got in grade school was a teeny weeny gold tinfoil star sticker in my workbook…
Ha! You were nothing but a spoiled brat! I was happy to get just get one beating instead of two.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/29 "2004-08-27T20:23:36Z")
The only time I’ve ever been a “victim of food” was when a rutabaga fell on my foot in the Kroger produce aisle.
_“When you do well and you reward yourself with food, that is something that will continue to promote obesity.”_
Hah, when I conquer rough times at work I reward myself with escarole and a few dabs of low-fat low-carb tofu. Find fault with that, baby.
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/30 "2004-08-27T20:37:19Z")
> [@Zebra](#):
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> Isn’t the actual ‘Political Correctness’ movement dead?
Yeah, they decided it wasn’t PC, so it got canned.
My big problem with Krispy Kreme being involved is that whole truth-in-advertising thing–those suckers are neither crisp nor creamy. I realize, if they don’t spell it “crisp” they don’t have to _be_ crisp, but still…
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### Author:  [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/31 "2004-08-27T20:53:19Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I realize, if they don’t spell it “crisp” they don’t have to _be_ crisp, but still…
But that’s the subtle beauty of the system. According to the unwritten rule of food naming, any word in the title that is not actually in the product has to be mispelled. Thus, Froot Loops don’t have to contain any fruit, but they do have to be loops. If they were filled circles, they’d have to call them Froot Lewps or something. Kraft Macaroni ‘n’ Cheez must contain macaroni, but need not contain actual cheese.
Truly, it’s a beautiful thing.
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### Author:  [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/32 "2004-08-27T20:58:10Z")
It’s actually Kraft Macaroni and Cheese.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/33 "2004-08-27T21:07:02Z")
> [@Zebra](#):
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> The fact that the principal does not want to help Krispy Kreme sell more doughnuts shows that the principals have some principles.
Ha! If you want to see principles, wait until KK decides to spend a little advertising money on `eduational' materials for schools on the `new research’ about carbs. Or simply helps defray the cost of education in return for favorable posters in lunchrooms and a few field trips a year.
`Principle' is another way to spell `payoff’.
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### Author:  [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/34 "2004-08-27T21:15:52Z")
Eh, I’m kind of ambivalent about this issue. On the one hand I’m certain Krispy Kreme is not offering all-you-can-eat doughnut buffets to good students. Nothing wrong with doughnuts in moderation. Grades come out what, every six weeks, or quarterly? Doesn’t sound too damaging. I remember summer reading clubs when I was a kids and there was a scale of rewards based on how much you read which earned you coupons for free food at the local Burger King. It would have taken a real bibliovore to abuse the system to the point where their health would have been in jepoardy.
On the other hand there are better ways to reward academic achievement than with tasty, but transient material goods. Plus the jury still seems to be out on the long-term effects of this particular reinforcement method(food as a reward). Throw in the free advertising Krispy Kreme would be getting from the teachers hocking their doughnuts and the increased revenue as mom and dad take the whole family to the Krispy Kreme place so little Billy can collect his “reward” and it is a pretty slick scheme. I have a general objection to using children to manipulate the buying power of their parents. If one of my kids comes to me begging for something that an ad targetted at them made them want really badly it is almost certainly going to get them nothing more than a lecture on how they should save their own money for the things they want instead of begging daddy.
Enjoy,
Steven
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### Author:  [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/35 "2004-08-27T21:20:46Z")
> [@Neurotik](#):
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> It’s actually Kraft Macaroni and Cheese.
Ah.
Way to ruin my point, you PC goon.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/36 "2004-08-27T21:24:35Z")
> [@Colophon](#):
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> “I am a victim of food as reward”, or, in layman’s terms, “I’m a lazy slob that will eat anything brightly coloured and full of lard that I see on a poster.”
Or in non-jackass layman’s terms, “I was bribed with food as a child and didn’t learn proper eating habits.” Which still doesn’t justify invoking victim status but doesn’t make her the loser you want to set out to make her with absolutely no supporting evidence like, say, a picture.
And hey, if she is big as a house, good on her again for wanting to help keep other people from going through the same shit she has.
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/37 "2004-08-27T21:38:59Z")
> [@Neurotik](#):
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> It’s actually Kraft Macaroni and Cheese.
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> > [@Giraffe](#):
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> > Ah.
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> > Way to ruin my point, you PC goon.
True, but he doesn’t have to be neurotic.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/38 "2004-08-27T21:45:49Z")
> [@Mtgman](#):
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> It would have taken a real bibliovore to abuse the system to the point where their health would have been in jepoardy.
Ya mean biblio_phile_?
I think the biblio_vores_ are the ones who gorge on the books themselves (bindings and paper are probably low-fat but I’m not sure about the carbs. ☹
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/39 "2004-08-27T22:04:04Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> I have difficulty seeing how this program is any different than the free tokens you get a Chuck E. Cheese’s for good grades, or the Pizza Hut “Book It!” program they had when I was in grade school (read enough books, get free pizza).
The difference is that Chuck E. Cheese and Pizza Hut pay for it without taking money from people who don’t eat there.
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### Author:  [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grade-a-students-no-donuts-for-you-more-political-correctness-kills-fun/261800/40 "2004-08-27T22:05:53Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Ya mean biblio **phile**?
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> I think the biblio **vores** are the ones who gorge on the books themselves (bindings and paper are probably low-fat but I’m not sure about the carbs. ☹
Ewww! No! Biblio_philes_ are those scary guys who always return the books with the pages all stuck together and the binding stretched out. Or those hanging out in the “Renaissance Art” section of the library and leaving with their hands in their pockets. Nope, definitely not those guys!
🙂
Enjoy,
Steven
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