# Graham Wellington banned? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231 "2005-10-14T16:03:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/61 "2005-10-15T01:16:33Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Then explain George W. Bush? Wow. It took until post #53? The rage seems to be fading. _Snoopy-dance_ > [@Miller](#): > > The only purpose he’d have served here was fodder for the rest of us, and the idea of mocking the disabled doesn’t sit well with me. I will now and forever allow the boost to my self-confidence to wash over me in glorious splendor when you take me to task over some of the stuff I post that you don’t agree with. At least I know you’re engaging me. Yay for me! 🙂 I have no idea of **Graham** ’s fate nor reasons for his beliefs. Nor do I know if any of us has the qualifications to diagnose him while not able to lend suggestions of dealing with detox for another poster. He seemed to switch from post to post between complely rational, lucid and valid, to living under the sea and trying to get us to understand the aliens that have been farming us for years are coming soon and what kind of hubcaps the wheels would have. (Damnit, now we’ll never know). He never seemed to hit that “middle” that most of us have been in from time to time (some more than others) where you’re not benign to the board, but you’re also not coming across as a squirrel that happened to run across a keyboard in just the right way to form English sentences. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/62 "2005-10-15T01:32:41Z")
> [@brightpenny](#): > > He had some serious anger issues with women-in-general, from what I saw in his post about his ex. > > I should have paid attention to that squirmy feeling that his purpose in asking about our childbirth painful experiences might be to get off on women’s pain. Ew. > > _I need to wash the ickiness off me now_ Where did he talk about his ex? Count me in with those who saw it coming. It was pretty obvious that sooner or later, he’d get himself banned. I’d call this one a “Mercy Banning”, if anything. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/63 "2005-10-15T01:46:19Z")
You know many of his ops were rational. I will link some examples: All in interest of the truth and fighting ignorance. [Do those of you that hate(!) porn have “any” desire at all to view it?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339275) [More legal chess moves in a game of chess than there are adams in the known universe?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336999) [What was your favorite Twilight Zone episode?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339478) Pretty crazy thread huh? [If they came out with a pill that would let you live 1000 years…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339348) [Does anyone recall the “Invaders,” starring Roy Thinnes?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339169) Never heard of it personally [The sick video of 4 New Orleans cops beating up on a 67-yr-old former teacher](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=339248) Guilty of posting in the wrong thread, the horror. Sounded sane in this one. [How does one eat just one Ferrero Rocher chocolate?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338132) Silly but harmless 😉 [Need help finding a Jimmy Page/Robert Plant song](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338006) [Which do you think are the ten best colleges and universities in the world?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337082) Just trying to point out he wasn’t a raving lunatic. Besides you allow someone to show up and post Revelations every few month and he actually scares me a little. I don’t recall his name, but some of you must know whom I am referring to. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/64 "2005-10-15T01:54:35Z")
> [@](#): > > **Contrapuntal** : I kinda liked the part where his shrink mailed him back a book he had left in the office, but not before wiping a booger on it. I loved the irony that Graham had little or no respect for psychiatrists and yet demanded that we read a book written by one. Further, that particular psychiatrist violated the ethics of his profession by becoming sexually involved with his patient. (He eventually divorced his wife and married Michelle Smith, his patient and the subject of his book.) > [@](#): > > **Case Sensitive** : Since when have people been banned because they don’t fit in? I don’t like to see people excluded for that reason either, but I honestly don’t think that happened in this case. It may be that Graham was _incapable_ of following SDMB rules or maybe he chose not to. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/65 "2005-10-15T02:43:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The guy was badly damaged… [M]ocking the disabled doesn’t sit well with me. The boards are better without him, and he better without the boards. ‘The man is mentally disabled! I can’t stand mocking the disabled! Off with his head!’ 😕 I didn’t happen to read any of his ‘offensive’ posts; but I did notice, as **jrfranchi** pointed out, that his threads I did see seemed to be innocuous. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/66 "2005-10-15T02:58:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Letting him stay around and become a subject of public mockery would most likely exacerbate his condition, and that would be inconscionable. Assuming he _had_ a condition, one could equally well argue that it might ameliorate it. As far him as becoming “a subject for public mockery” and cruelty, that problem would seem to lie with the mockers, not the mockee: I know which I’d invoke the “don’t be a jerk” rule for. Kudos to **jrfranchi** for linking to his “sane” posts: the whole “ **Graham** ’s a loony so he should be banned” momentum sprang from _one_ thread. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/67 "2005-10-15T03:00:54Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > Assuming he _had_ a condition, one could equally well argue that it might ameliorate it. That was badly put. I meant of course that the staying round, not the mockery, might ameliorate any alleged condition. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/68 "2005-10-15T03:45:05Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Where did he talk about his ex? When his name suddently showed up with BANNED in the childbirth thread, I looked back at past posts. In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=337388) he makes numerous angry comments about women. He does a fair amount of backpedaling, but always ends up asserting something offensive. I was really surprised by it, since he’d seemed to caring in the childbirth thread. Oh well, that’s in the past, I’ll let him be. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/69 "2005-10-15T03:57:01Z")
Yikes. Thanks for that, **brightpenny**. **Case Sensitive** , I think it’s safe to assume he was mentally ill. The whole mission from Jesus, Satanists are out to get him, hidden messages in movies, etc. He reminds me of a schizophrenic **Wildest Bill**. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/70 "2005-10-15T04:12:41Z")
Suffice it to say that he was being discussed among the staff prior to his earning his specific warnings. As noted, he seemed to swing between odd lucidity and raving lunacy. This suggested either a true loon, (with a very real possibility that he would invite truly hurtful responses–although the TM were pretty kind to him after his apparent mental disability appeared in the Castaneda thread), or a troll. Racking up multiple wrnings in a short period _might_ have served as an “excuse,” but the writing was already drying on the wall. As to refunds, the staff discussed that issue in light of the possibility of mental illness, but we do not publicly comment on our conclusions or actions in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/71 "2005-10-15T04:36:38Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > That was badly put. I meant of course that the staying round, not the mockery, might ameliorate any alleged condition. **tremorviolet** posted some links to quotes of his (early in this thread) which I had not read before. Given their tone, I can see why GW was banned. Any one of those posts might seem and actually be innocuous (well, one of them was pretty obvious) but taken together they present evidence of racist assholery. This is a condition that can be ameliorated, true, but it sure takes a lot of work (ask **Left Hand of Dorkness** about that). It’s also true that many of his posts and OPs seemed sane, rational, friendly, and open to learning. But I think the mods called it correctly here. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/72 "2005-10-15T04:40:13Z")
Thanks, **tomndebb**. That clarifies a few things. It can’t have been an easy decision to make. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/73 "2005-10-15T05:22:49Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > :eek: Forget about any real or imagined mental health issues. Those can be treated. My main concern is how the hell am I supposed to avoid going to Hell now?!? Get yourself a [Get out of Hell Free](http://www.goohf.com/) card, of course. Or I could send you one—I bought a whole box of them a while back and have been having tons o’ fun passing them out. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/74 "2005-10-15T05:39:12Z")
He seemed to me to be both a bit unbalanced and a determined stirrer of shit. I find it odd that people look at it as an either/or dichotomy when they encounter such behavior. “Well, either the guy was sincere, or he was yanking our collective chains in a major way just to get rise out of us.” Having worked with these types for a long time, my Mom would tell you it could easily be a bit of _both_. That’s the problem with some species of troll: They probably do view the world through a seriously-distorted lense; but they also somehow get off on the consternation they cause when disseminating the content of their insanity. They may sincerely think on some level they’re misunderstood, but assuming the position of the outsider sage, however facetiously, is food for the twisted emotions of the needy manipulator. It’s a sadomasochistic dance they engage in, allowing them to gain the sick affirmation that comes with playing the victim of some larger oppressor, whilst eliciting apoplexy and other generally obnoxious “negative attention seeking”. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/75 "2005-10-15T16:42:02Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > I didn’t happen to read any of his ‘offensive’ posts; but I did notice, as **jrfranchi** pointed out, that his threads I did see seemed to be innocuous. Check [these](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6686227&postcount=21) out. Just as a little taste, I’ll C+P one where he says that blacks are ‘crapping out babies,’ while whites, apparently, built the world. > [@GrahamWellington](#): > > A simple answer: > > When a countries media is taken over by liberals, hammering day and night into the minds of many millions that certain groups are owed the world, then (many in) those groups that think they’re victims, take it to heart and exploit the generosity of those that BUILT THE WORLD!!! > > You could also ask, Why is it that the one group that whines the most about things being so horribly bad for them (because of “racism”), also happens to be the group that is crapping out babies at a far greater rate than those that supposedly are oppressing them. It doesn’t make sense! ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/76 "2005-10-16T17:38:21Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > I don’t care if it’s fair or not, so long as the board is less cluttered-up with thread titles that sound like they were written for _The Kids in the Hall_’s “Gavin.” > > **If my head was made of meat, how much would it be worth?** I don’t know either, but besides the other things mentioned here, there was something odd about him. It seemed to me that he was trying too hard to come up with topics to start threads about. It was as if he really hadn’t thought about the things; he just wanted to begin as many threads as possible. I can see why some thought he was a troll or a returning bannee. He just didn’t seem genuine, except when he said crazy things. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/77 "2005-10-16T21:44:55Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > I don’t care if it’s fair or not, so long as the board is less cluttered-up with thread titles that sound like they were written for _The Kids in the Hall_’s “Gavin.” > > **If my head was made of meat, how much would it be worth?** I’m glad I’m not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231/78 "2005-10-16T21:51:15Z")
It appears that his meathead was worth US $14.95. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graham-wellington-banned/326231.md?page=3)