# Grammys tonight: apparently Paul and Ringo will perform together.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 27, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804 "2014-01-27T01:14:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/41 "2014-01-27T16:37:59Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> I had no idea who the opening act was as it wasn’t announced. Found out later it was Beyonce. Based on that song, I am mystified why she is held in such high regard.

I actually figured out who she was (but not the dude, who turned out to be some alphabet soup rapper). Her act seems to consist of waving her fat ass at the audience and trying to look sultry. I thought her singing to be the typical warbling that singers do these days, running up and down the scale in search of a note.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/42 "2014-01-27T16:44:54Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> … in this day and age, what the heck determines what is or is not on the same ‘record’? I haven’t purchased any 45 RPM records in a little while, myself.

I’m not sure why it matters. The “record” award goes to the recording of a particular song. It doesn’t really matter what album it’s on, or even if it’s on an album. The “song” award goes to the songwriters themselves for the song. “Albums” still exist, so the “album” award goes to best collection of songs released as an album.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/43 "2014-01-27T16:50:33Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Was that Johnny Depp in the footage on the screens during Paul McCartney’s song. What was that all about?

Depp was featured in a couple of McCartney’s videos, which he uses as background for live performances.

“Same Love” was pretty cool, but Madonna sounds and looks like shit. I really liked the performances by John Legend and QOTSA/Buckingham/Reznor.

When they announced Album of the Year, Taylor Swift’s camp thought they had won for a split second. Good recovery though. I am so glad she didn’t win Best Country Album, because nothing about that album was country.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/44 "2014-01-27T16:51:32Z")

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… How do people not know who Beyonce is these days (to say nothing of Jay Z, but I’ll let that slide)?!

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/45 "2014-01-27T17:04:14Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I actually figured out who she was (but not the dude, who turned out to be some alphabet soup rapper). Her act seems to consist of waving her fat ass at the audience and trying to look sultry. I thought her singing to be the typical warbling that singers do these days, running up and down the scale in search of a note.

You should never, ever watch the Grammys again. Or leave your house.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/46 "2014-01-27T17:10:15Z")

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My prediction that they were going to perform “Hey Hey We’re The Monkees” was pretty offbase, in retrospect…

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/47 "2014-01-27T17:24:28Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I actually figured out who she was (but not the dude, who turned out to be some alphabet soup rapper). Her act seems to consist of waving her fat ass at the audience and trying to look sultry. I thought her singing to be the typical warbling that singers do these days, running up and down the scale in search of a note.

Should we get off your lawn now or should we already be off of it?

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/48 "2014-01-27T18:39:30Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I actually figured out who she was (but not the dude, who turned out to be some alphabet soup rapper).

Jay-Z. Her husband. Together they are arguably today’s most powerful couple in the music industry. This is why you’re getting so much guff.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/49 "2014-01-27T18:59:20Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> So obviously Album is the whole album and Song is a single song, but what is Record for? How is that different from Album?

The easiest way I have found to describe the difference between Record of the Year and Song of the Year:  
To choose “Record of the Year”, listen to every song, performed by whoever it was that performed it, and choose the winner; the performer gets the Grammy.  
To choose “Song of the Year”, listed to every song, covered by the cast of _Glee_, and choose the winner; the songwriter gets the Grammy.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/50 "2014-01-27T19:12:50Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> Jay-Z. Her husband. Together they are arguably today’s most powerful couple in the music industry. This is why you’re getting so much guff.

Might explain what The Onion calls the music industry’s, “slow but opulent crawl toward death”.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/51 "2014-01-27T19:38:17Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Might explain what The Onion calls the music industry’s, “slow but opulent crawl toward death”.

How so? Is it Beyonce’s “fat ass”, Jay-Z’s alphabet-like moniker, or something else?

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**Author:** ![bryanmaguire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bryanmaguire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bryanmaguire)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/52 "2014-01-27T20:25:33Z")

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Anybody know what it was that Stevie Wonder was playing?

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/53 "2014-01-27T20:32:14Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> How so? Is it Beyonce’s “fat ass”, Jay-Z’s alphabet-like moniker, or something else?

Something else. Like that tuneless opening number.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/54 "2014-01-27T20:59:35Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Something else. Like that tuneless opening number.

Weird, cuz The Onion’s own entertainment offshoot [loved the album](http://www.avclub.com/review/beyonces-surprise-album-is-her-most-substantial-an-200652) it came from.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/55 "2014-01-27T21:25:39Z")

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The AV Club aren’t the only ones who loved it as well. It’s got 86/100 from Metacritic.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/56 "2014-01-27T23:08:45Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> Jay-Z. Her husband. Together they are arguably today’s most powerful couple in the music industry. This is why you’re getting so much guff.

Yeah, and Jay-Z is pretty fucking good. And that’s a hell of an understatement. Everybody seems to know Beyonce now, but _Reasonable Doubt_, _The Blueprint_, _The Black Album_ are all classics. Of course, if you just think rap is all a bunch of noise, you may disagree. Beyonce’s work is pretty damned good, too. Not necessarily my usual listening pleasure, but I just don’t see how you can deny her talent.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/57 "2014-01-27T23:21:36Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> … How do people not know who Beyonce is these days (to say nothing of Jay Z, but I’ll let that slide)?!

I wouldn’t recognize either if I walked past them on the sidewalk.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/58 "2014-01-28T00:00:44Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I wouldn’t recognize either if I walked past them on the sidewalk.

I know Beyonce from her pepsi (or is it coke?) ads. And I’m officially giving up on understanding pop music.

I never had any use for rap or hip-hop, but those are arguably different genres from rock and pop, so I wasn’t too worried about that. I thought there was hope for me when I liked Justin Timberlake’s hits last year.

But watching Lorde win everything, I give up. She looks and sounds to me like the weird girl at school who insists on entering the talent show and you can’t find a way in the rules to stop her.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/59 "2014-01-28T00:49:08Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> But watching Lorde win everything, I give up. She looks and sounds to me like the weird girl at school who insists on entering the talent show and you can’t find a way in the rules to stop her.

Really? “Royals” was an awesome single. I don’t know if it’s my number one from 2013, but it’s up there in the top 5 (I like Daft Punk’s better, and was pretty happy to see it do well, too.) Why would you stop her from entering a talent show? She, like, actually has solid vocal chops.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grammys-tonight-apparently-paul-and-ringo-will-perform-together/679804/60 "2014-01-28T01:10:57Z")

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I like Lorde’s “Royals” too. Hey, I can sing along to it! Cause, y’know, it’s a song with a tune. Not some warbling to a rhythm track like whatever that was that Beyonce opened the show with.

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