# Grandpa grabs gun; Grave greets grifter **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628 "2003-11-27T22:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/1 "2003-11-27T22:14:00Z")
Hats off to a fellow who wouldn’t allow the safety of his wife or home be violated [without redress.](http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/St.+Louis+City+/+County/E7BF159BE8A9090A86256DE4001D3671?OpenDocument&Headline=Man,+73,+kills+robber+holding+shears+to+wife's+neck&highlight=2,Lares,Drive) I find it particularly despicable when the criminal element preys upon the elderly, and give a ^5 to those who take a stand against it. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/2 "2003-11-27T22:24:11Z")
My apologies-no clue why link is not functioning. Mod help? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/3 "2003-11-27T22:45:04Z")
Brittle bridegroom, briefly [Bronson](http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/St.+Louis+City+/+County/E7BF159BE8A9090A86256DE4001D3671?OpenDocument&Headline=Man,+73,+shears), brilliantly brandishes, brings brass to break-in brigand. _(Length of original URL is the problem)_ ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/4 "2003-11-27T22:53:42Z")
Wow, you can rhyme! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/5 "2003-11-27T22:54:49Z")
That seemed kind of snarky **Ilsa**. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/6 "2003-11-27T22:55:48Z")
Snarky? ME? Ok, ok. :o ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/7 "2003-11-27T23:05:27Z")
Doper doffs derby to deft deliverer of data. Danke. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/8 "2003-11-28T00:02:08Z")
**Atreyu** appreciates alliteration. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/9 "2003-11-28T00:11:20Z")
**TänzemitKatzen** : Das Vergnügen ist meins, mein liebes. 🙂 **Atreyu** also adores assonance? 😛 > [@](#): > > **From the article** > > Allowed to get his wallet, the homeowner retrieved his pistol instead… > > _snip_ > > When he emerged, [his wife] pulled away and he opened fire. I give his wife credit as well. Total bad-asses, all the way around. ---
**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/10 "2003-11-28T00:31:44Z")
Well, can’t say I blame him. 😃 That said, I have a feeling someone is going to object to what this guy and his wife did. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/11 "2003-11-28T02:21:33Z")
Grandma is really lucky that Gramps didn’t score a 2 for 1. If his aim was justa little off… ---
**Author:** ![Coin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Coin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coin)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/12 "2003-11-28T05:37:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Grandma is really lucky that Gramps didn’t score a 2 for 1. spooje makes a good point. If the guy had been a little less steady in his aim, this wouldn’t be a happy story. Fortunately he was either lucky or practiced in the use of firearms. If it was the latter, good for him and kudos for saving an innocent life and putting down a probable murderer. If it was just the former, he shouldn’t have had that pistol around in the first place. Anyway, we don’t know which it was, so the default position is yay for gramps. ---
**Author:** ![Matchka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Matchka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Matchka)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/13 "2003-11-28T19:56:09Z")
**Jurhael** I’ll give it a try: Great, so now old folks will be deemed as “dangerous” targets for criminals. Where does that leave the rest of us young & healthy open-minded gun-less liberals? no, wait…lame. How about: That old crank might just as well offed his wife and the next door neighbor if he hadn’t got lucky with his initial volley. Damn cop shows inciting violence in the real world [frothing] this is just what the NRA needs to kill any gun-control legislation asdhh dgfsdgs aaarrrrgghhh.[frothing/] Sorry. Couldn’t do it. God bless America. ---
**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/14 "2003-11-28T21:25:42Z")
I can just imagine what this jerkoff was thinking as he ran from that house: “Old people are supposed to be weak, easy targets–WTF is going on?” My guess is, this guy knew what he was doing, or he wouldn’t have risked the life of his wife on a wild shot–that life was important enough to him to defend with lethal force. Also, the cops were privately praising him. I don’t think they’d do that if this guy was simply a Charles Bronson wannabe. And I’ll just bet his wife knew he was going for the gun, the way she pulled aside to give him the clear shot. I say, more power to him! It’s about time one if these stories _ **didn’t** _ end with two elderly people losing their lives to a punk asshole looking to make an easy score! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/15 "2003-11-28T22:10:25Z")
If this is the story I think it is, Grandpa is a retired Marine. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/16 "2003-11-29T04:10:33Z")
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. More people have guns, and know how to use them, than you’d think. Probably at least one of your friends that you’ve never considered as owning one, has one. Probably a nice, quiet person, too. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-grabs-gun-grave-greets-grifter/215628/17 "2003-11-29T04:26:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by E-Sabbath \* > \*\*I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. \*\* Are you bragging, or complaining? 🙂