# Grandpa, what does "wind up a watch" mean?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 20, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080 "2005-10-20T14:42:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![manx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/81 "2005-10-21T00:45:41Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Pressing hard when signing your MasterCharge or BankAmeriCard slip so your sig would go through the carbons. This was after they ran the little brick-thing chunka-chunka back and forth over the raised numbers to make them imprint on the form.

Where I work, we can’t give people cash refunds if they’ve paid with their credit card, so we use the Zip-Zap machine. I love using it! I feel like I sould also be recording their purchases in a a huge ledger with copperplate handwriting. We also use it if our eftpos goes down.

We had a dial phone (what are they properly called? Rotary?) when I was a (very little) kid, and mum gave it to us to play with when we got a touch-tone phone. Actually, who refers to them as ‘touch-tone’ anymore? I remember seing infomercials on the tv that required a touch-tone phone to call, but it’s been about ten years since I heard the term.

I used to pay $5 for fifteen minutes on the internet at the only net-cafe in town. Now they’re all over the place and I pay a dollar an hour.

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**Author:** ![manx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/82 "2005-10-21T00:50:29Z")

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> [@NinjaChick](#):
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> Um.
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> How did they? Did they just have a list of every item in the store, with the prices, and the prices never changed? Did they have to enter every single thing individually? What happened when something went on sale?
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> _slinks off to feel young and stupid_

Hey, I feel young and stupid now, too!

Did everything have pricetags, and the cashiers just knew the codes for the fruid and veges?  
Were supermarkets smaller? Was there less stuff?  
Did the whole thing just take a long time?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/83 "2005-10-21T01:01:45Z")

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Everything had a price tag on it, except for produce and deli meat that was weighed and then priced. Most checkers at the grocery store knew the stock backwards and forwards–but back then, there weren’t 50 different types of yogurt to choose from etc. (heck, yogurt debuted on the shelves here circa 1975).

I remember watching a stock boy (another lost relic) use a new thingy to _automatically_ stick the individual price tags on each can of soup! It was amazing, I tells ya.  
Nonprogrammable coffee makers.

clip art for school papers–you had to cut out the desired object (autumn leaves, kids playing, whatever), affix it to the paper you wanted it to show up on, and then make copies. Now it’s all computer generated.  
garage doors that did not open by hitting a switch.

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**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/84 "2005-10-21T01:19:18Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> garage doors that did not open by hitting a switch.

When we got our first garage door, the neighbor kids came over to watch the door open and shut by itself. Wow that was cool.

This must have been 1975, so garage door openers weren’t really that unusual. Just in our neighborhood I guess.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/85 "2005-10-21T01:20:41Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Actually getting up to turn the channel on the T.V. And only having 12 to choose from.

Bwahahahahahahah, we only had three real channels and channel 11 which was fuzzy and only had public service stuff you didn’t want to watch. AND WE WERE HAPPY!! Damn these extravagent times, 12 channels, what a waste!!! What’s the world coming to? Hell in a handbasket I says.

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**Author:** ![Nature\_s\_Call](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nature_s_call/32/19006_2.png) [@Nature\_s\_Call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nature_s_Call)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/86 "2005-10-21T02:00:55Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Nonprogrammable coffee makers.

Perculators! And make sure you add just a bit of salt to counter the bitterness…

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> clip art for school papers–you had to cut out the desired object (autumn leaves, kids playing, whatever), affix it to the paper…

Remember Lettraset, those sheets with letters on them, each sheet had one “font” with, maybe, different sizes and you held the letter in position and rubbed over with a pencil?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/87 "2005-10-21T02:39:02Z")

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> [@manx](#):
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> Hey, I feel young and stupid now, too!
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> Did everything have pricetags, and the cashiers just knew the codes for the fruid and veges?  
> Were supermarkets smaller? Was there less stuff?  
> Did the whole thing just take a long time?

Everything did have price tags. The stock clerks had these big pricing guns and marked the products extremely quickly. However, a price change meant that everything on the shelf had to come off and be retagged. You would often see products with a lot of price tags stacked on top or close to one another if the product had been there for a while. It was also hard to keep the price tags consistent on the same product. Finding say, a can of soup, with a lower price than the others meant that is what you would probably pay although some cashiers did memorize a good portion of the correct prices in the store. Manual price checks resulting from missing price tags were very common.

Cashiers had to enter numbers very quickly and accurately. Produce and other qeighable items were put on the scale just like now except the cashier had to X-Ref a lookup chart to calculate the total cost.

There are way more products now than there were then.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/88 "2005-10-21T02:47:32Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Everything did have price tags. The stock clerks had these big pricing guns and marked the products extremely quickly. \<snip\>

I used to do this. The store I worked in still used the really old-fashioned stampers! I got pretty good with the [Monarch pricing gun](http://www.smartresolution.com/print_services/retail/pricing_detail.asp?p=45910).

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/89 "2005-10-21T03:00:31Z")

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> [@Nature's Call](#):
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> Reminds me of, “Don’t you hate when the program changes mid guitar solo?” closely followed by “Daddy, what’s an 8-track?”

Actually, I HATED the fact that ‘The Cantina Scene music’ on my Star Wars soundtrack 8-track was interrupted between tracks 1 and 2.

Others:

-Man. I just Burnt a coaster. (Went to an Antique store, one that sell booths for people to sell their stuff) There’s a LOT of CDs there.

-Setting the base timing on the distributor.

-Leaded Gas.

-I can’t get the Vertical Hold to stay on the TV. (corilary: Aluminum foil helps the reception)

-My Barber cleans up my neckline and sideburns with a straightrazor.

-Kids shoes that don’t light up when they walk.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/90 "2005-10-21T04:01:36Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> the sound of a needle being dragged across a record.

Isn’t that quite familiar because of rap music and the whole turntable scratching thing?

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**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/91 "2005-10-21T04:39:14Z")

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“_Grandpa, what’s Yugoslavia?_”

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/92 "2005-10-21T04:57:20Z")

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> [@NinjaChick](#):
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> Um.
> 
> How did they? Did they just have a list of every item in the store, with the prices, and the prices never changed? Did they have to enter every single thing individually? What happened when something went on sale?
> 
> _slinks off to feel young and stupid_

In the store I worked in in 1977, there was stuff that sold rapidly, and I just knew the prices on those (and the store owner would tell me if he upped the price), and then there were items that didn’t move as fast, which were far more likely to have a price stamped on them. Then there was a spiral notebook I could consult if necessary.

The cash register itself… it had electricity, let’s get that out of the way 😉

The main buttons on the cash register looked like this:

```auto

$90 $9 90¢ 9¢
$80 $8 80¢ 8¢
$70 $7 70¢ 7¢
$60 $6 60¢ 6¢
(etc)

Then there were a handful of category buttons — "Sundries", "Staples", "Dry Goods", "Tax" "Amt Tendered", "Total", and stuff like that. So to sell someone a bottle of Maalox for $1.39, let's say, you'd push down the $1 button, the 30¢ button, and the 9¢ button and then hit (let's say) "Sundries", which causes the price-entry to be accepted and to print a line on the paper tape that says "$1.38 Sundries". The numbers and category would pop up in the glass window on the cash register, too, for the customer to see (and for you to see, too, the little rectangles were printed on both sides)

You would be expected to know the applicable tax. New Mexico had a 4% sales tax at that time, so (IIRC) the tax on $1.39 would be 5¢, so you'd hit the 5¢ button and the "Tax" button and another line would be printed on the tape (and come up in the glass window). You hit the "Total" button and the cash register would do the math for you and print/display "$1.44 TOTAL".

Customer hands you two ones. You hit the $2 button followed by the "Amt Tendered" button and the cash register does the math for you again and reports and prints out "$0.56 CHANGE" and the cash drawer pops open. You slide the two ones into the ones drawer, and pull out a penny, a nickel, and two quarters and then count the change back to the customer as you put it in the customer's hand: "One forty four, (penny) forty five, (nickel) fifty, (quarter) seventy-five, (quarter) two, thank you and have a nice day".
```

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/93 "2005-10-21T05:18:13Z")

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Yes son, it used to be that every month, the bank would return your checks after they were cashed, and you would **balance the check book**. Everytime you would write a check, you would subtract the amount from your bank balance. When the statement came, you would add up all the checks that didn’t come back (by hand :eek: )and see if your balance was the same as the bank statement. Without calculators and with most purchases done by check, it would take a long time.

Oh, what’s a check?

My mother didn’t like scanners when the first were used. Apparently, part of grochery shopping involved watching the checker to make sure that the price was rung up correctly. Mom was concerned that with the new system stores could change prices without the shoppers’ knowledge.

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**Author:** ![DarkPrince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DarkPrince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkPrince)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/94 "2005-10-21T05:47:34Z")

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I was amazed a while back when my mom informed me that, before they had printers and stuff, her office had a guy they hired who’s sole job was drawing graphs and charts.  
…or that when they finally did get a computer and printer she had to go out of her building and walk a couple blocks to another office to use them.  
…or that she was considered strange for knowing how to touchtype her own documents instead of relying on an office secretary that would take a week to get through the queue to her sheet.

She felt just a wee bit older after that conversation. 😃

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/95 "2005-10-21T12:28:47Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> In the store I worked in in 1977, there was … thank you and have a nice day".

A neighbor worked at the local A&P and I can remember watching her ring up groceries on Fridays when my mother went shopping. We’re talking big grocery carts full - and she was fast! Did it all by touch, too.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/96 "2005-10-21T12:30:58Z")

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“How could you possibly have eaten food if you bought it with _soil_ on it?”

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/97 "2005-10-21T13:07:40Z")

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> [@Leviosaurus](#):
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> You know, I’d actually forgotten that one. 😃 Wow that brings back memories. “Don’t dance so hard! You’ll make the record skip!”

My husband had a car that had a phonograph that played 45s in the car. While it was moving. And it didn’t skip a real lot. GO FIGURE!

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**Author:** ![iluvurmom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iluvurmom/32/7276_2.png) [@iluvurmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iluvurmom)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/98 "2005-10-21T13:12:01Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> They don’t?

Of course there are the few exceptions here and there. The owners of the these rare devices can be identified by their drastically larger bicept on their left arm. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/99 "2005-10-21T13:14:13Z")

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I don’t know if you had them in the USA, but I had to tell one of my daughters about dynamo-driven lights on the bike. She thought they sounded super cool. Man do I remember feeling like a mule driving those beasts.

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grandpa-what-does-wind-up-a-watch-mean/327080/100 "2005-10-21T13:15:32Z")

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> [@Nature's Call](#):
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> We had to look under my dad’s bed. My kids look on my hard drive.

What, you don’t PGP encrypt your data? 🙂

My concern is WHAT they can see with a little 'ol Google search. I don’t WANT them to think sex includes a minature pony and a midget in lederhosen(\*)

(\* for the love of pete, I couldn’t remember lederhosen…so I went to the google bar at the top of the browser and typed ‘german ethnic clothing’…I’da been screwed in the 70’s if I couldn’t remember a word.)

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