# Graphic new FDA cig. warning labels show diseased lungs, more. . .

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 10, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205 "2010-11-10T19:39:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/1 "2010-11-10T19:39:19Z")

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Wow. This is huge. The FDA will require horribly graphic warning labels on cigarette packs that show everything from tracheotomy smokers to diseased lungs to corpses with toe tags.

You have to check this out.

[NYT article](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/health/policy/11tobacco.html)

[official FDA announcement](http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/CigaretteProductWarningLabels/default.htm) - click on each proposed warning to see the accompanying graphic - gruesome.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/2 "2010-11-10T19:51:18Z")

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Welcome to Canadian cigarette packages 🙂

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/3 "2010-11-10T19:52:18Z")

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Yeah, it’s really worked in Canada, hasn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/4 "2010-11-10T19:57:47Z")

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[Looks to me like it did](http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/tobac-tabac/research-recherche/stat/ctums-esutc_2009_graph-eng.php) Not solely the packaging of course but still.

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**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/5 "2010-11-10T19:57:48Z")

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I haven’t smoked in nearly 2 decades (although I still use a nicotine substitute), but now I’ll have to go out and collect the whole set. I wonder if the graphic will be the same size on all cig packs - or will it be bigger on 100mm varieties than on the regular size. (I’m only half kidding btw)

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**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/6 "2010-11-10T20:40:54Z")

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Speaking of Canadian cig packages, there was a report on CBC recently that the Canadian Federal Government has decided not to require larger warnings. It seems that the large graphic warnings were more effective when they first came out, but not so much now.

> [@](#):
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> As the chief principal investigator for the international project, psychology Prof. Geoffrey Fong of the University of Waterloo has studied the effectiveness of the graphic warning labels that different countries require on cigarette packs.
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> “Our research has shown very definitively that the actual effectiveness of the warning labels in Canada has gone down over the years, rather dramatically actually,” Fong said, noting Canada has fallen behind other countries.  
> Read more: [http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/11/08/smoking-cigarette-labels-cmaj.html#ixzz14ujWPGP3](http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/11/08/smoking-cigarette-labels-cmaj.html#ixzz14ujWPGP3)

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**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/7 "2010-11-10T20:55:21Z")

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You become desensitized to it pretty quickly. They came out when I still smoked years and years ago, and I didn’t notice them any more after a few months.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/8 "2010-11-10T22:23:11Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> [Looks to me like it did](http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/tobac-tabac/research-recherche/stat/ctums-esutc_2009_graph-eng.php) Not solely the packaging of course but still.

Yeah, I certainly would say it wasn’t the packaging. When they first came out, I know guys who treated them like trading cards. They were kind of popular like Garbage Pail Kids.

Nowadays, I don’t know anyone who looks at a package of smokes any longer than it takes to identify the brand.

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**Author:** ![heavyarms553](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/779978/32.png) [@heavyarms553](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heavyarms553)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/9 "2010-11-10T22:39:58Z")

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Good. I’m tired of seeing people alternate puffs of cigarette smoke and albuterol.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/10 "2010-11-11T00:05:33Z")

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Those don’t look all that gruesome to me, compared to others I’ve seen from China or Thailand.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/11 "2010-11-11T00:09:49Z")

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What’s with the lady holding a keyboard over her head? (#4 in “[Cigarettes are addictive](http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/CigaretteProductWarningLabels/ucm231346.htm)” series)

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/12 "2010-11-11T00:14:49Z")

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Looks like she’s holding a purse or a newpaper over her head so she can indulge in her addiction in the rain.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/13 "2010-11-11T00:21:12Z")

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If the idea behind the graphic pix on the packages were carried to the logical extreme, what’s next?

A shot of a guy throwing up on a bottle of vodka.

A picture of an abnormal EKG and diseased heart on a package of bacon.

A morbidly obese kid on sugar cookies.

And…?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/14 "2010-11-11T00:34:36Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> And…?

A guy with feet in concrete getting tossed overboard with his pockets stuffed with racing forms

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/15 "2010-11-11T01:32:00Z")

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“Erectile dysfunction? No… Emphysema? Ewww… Oh, give me a pack of Low Birth Weights.”

[/no idea which comedian I’m dimly remembering]

Years ago, I knew a guy who collected the gum disease ones and papered the door to his study with 'em.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/16 "2010-11-11T05:23:12Z")

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These warnings make me feel like I’m back in seventh-grade health science again. I feel as if I’m being talked down to, and I don’t even smoke.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/17 "2010-11-11T06:06:33Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> Those don’t look all that gruesome to me, compared to others I’ve seen from China or Thailand.

Compared with what they put in the cigarette packages here the FDA proposals look like pictures of kittens playing with yarn balls.

WARNING!!! [Disturbing images here.](http://efference.blogspot.com/2007/11/thai-cigarette-packs.html)

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**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/18 "2010-11-11T06:24:59Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> Compared with what they put in the cigarette packages here the FDA proposals look like pictures of kittens playing with yarn balls.
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> WARNING!!! [Disturbing images here.](http://efference.blogspot.com/2007/11/thai-cigarette-packs.html)

Damn, that’s like bad (good?) porno - you’re not always sure what exactly it is that you’re looking at.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/19 "2010-11-11T08:31:30Z")

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Jeez. At what point do we say, “enough”? Just one more step on the long march towards serfdom. Hey, government, you have a [few](http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Brill-nom-US-national-debt.gif) [bad](http://www.lies.com/images/first_year.gif) [habits](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MqbLruwaPIQ/R929RdTXWvI/AAAAAAAAAL4/EzpTAb1GLcw/s400/Govt-Secrecy-poster-mini.gif) of your own. Howzabout working on some of those before you tell free citizens what to do? KTHKSBYE.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/graphic-new-fda-cig-warning-labels-show-diseased-lungs-more/560205/20 "2010-11-11T13:55:18Z")

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I tell the teens that I work with who smoke to vision every time they inhale on a cigerette they are sucking on an infected penis.

You should see the looks that gets.

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