Gratuitous nudity and NON-nudity in movies

I always found it amusing that She-Hulk’s shirt DOESN’T get torn to shreds, even though we know that this happens all the time to the male Hulk. But when the Hulk is a She, her shirt might rip but enough fabric will always remain in place to cover her nipples.

Oh, I’m sure her blouses & such do get torn to shreds; they just don’t admit it. The stories are censored in the inter-reality transmissions. In reality, when either Bruce or Jenn changes involuntarily, they’re going around starkers. (Obviously, after hooking up with the Avengers and later the Four, Jenn got an advance on her first year’s pay to pay a whole hell of a lot of unstable molecule outfits just in case.)

This reminds me of how, in one of the Discworld books (I think Jingo), Angua reflects on the fact that female werewolves like her have a lot of potential awkwardness to deal with when it comes to transforming from wolf to human. She thinks something like “A guy can just throw on a pair of shorts and pretend he’s been jogging, but a woman has to spend a lot of time getting herself decently covered!”

Another example. Elizabeth Banks said she was willing to do nude scenes for Zack and Miri Make a Porno. But Kevin Smith, for all that he writes incredibly raunchy dialogue, is uncomfortable with asking his actors to take off their clothes so he shot Miri’s sex scene with her wearing a bra.

That is stunning to me. Not just for the missed opportunity of seeing Elizabeth Banks topless but because the no-nudity porno made no sense in terms of the story and really made it hard to believe.

How certain are you that Banks really was willing to do it topless? Maybe it’s just a myth.

She said it herself in an interview I saw about the making of the movie. And she expressed a willingness to do go nude not just topless.

OK. Forget about storylines and believability and film integrity. Now I’m just mad I didn’t get to see my dream woman in the nude.

That is weird, since what’s-his-face who plays Jay of “Jay and Silent Bob” went full-frontal in ZaMMaP.

OK, Kevin Smith is officially on the “beat down owed” list.

I have noticed mentions of some comedies (Orgazmo, Airplane, Monty Python, prolly more) with nudity, to which I would say I don’t think that’s gratuitous…just done for comedy’s sake.

I would motion the court to not include those.

But that’s just me

Elizabeth Banks? You didn’t miss out. She’s been nude in other movies, I believe.

Jason Mewes. Smith said that he had difficulty asking Mewes to do the nude scenes despite the fact that Mewes is a friend of his and Smith knew he had no problem with showing off. Smith also said he had difficulty asking Katie Morgan to take off her clothes despite the fact that she’s a porno actress and has been nude in every movie she’s made.

That was the stupidest thing in that movie, and really ruined it for me. Like anyone is going to watch a porno scene featuring Seth Rogen banging a chick with her clothes on. (?) But they had no problem showing Jay’s schlong.

I was surprised to see Wolverine’s schlong in Wolverine Origins. I always wondered what happened when Wolverine got a hard-on. Did a giant claw come out of his schlong too?

Not really. She did a split-second half-nipple flash in Sexual Life but that’s it.

I’m also surprised to see she’s 35 years old. I would have guessed she was still in her twenties.

According to Mr. Skin, just a very brief peek at her left nipple during Sexual Life.

Yeah, it wasn’t particularly credible that they could have face-to-face intercourse and having it be the best sex of her life. In my experience, only a small percentage of women orgasm from intercourse. I could have bought Rogan going down on Banks and totally rocking her world - and the lack of nudity could have worked much better - flip up her skirt, go to town, make her claw the sheets and scream.

Banks has a cockamamie theory that nudity makes it difficult to get a laugh. Which is BS, as anyone who has seen Julianne Moore in The Big Lebowski: “Do you like sex, Mr. Lebowski?..Sex. The physical act of love. Coitus. Do you like it?”

Quoth Sir T-Cups:

Gratuitous nudity can be comedic. What makes it gratuitous is that it doesn’t further the plot. If you’re making a movie about people making a porno, and you see nudity in it, that’s not gratuitous. If, on the other hand, you’re making a comedy about the hijinks of a a college trying to close a fraternity house and the fraternity fighting back, and there’s someone inexplicably doing a strip-tease in her room while not noticing the guy on a ladder right outside her window, that’s gratuitous.

Its a TV programme, but Australian TV series shows nude scenes at the expense of plot & character development.

Last nights episode contained less nudity & was the better for it.

& I loved the film Pump Up the Volume, but the scene where the lead actress just took off her top ruined it for me - it just screamed "Mandatory Boob Scene.:

Secretary (2002) included a full frontal nude shot of Maggie Gyllenhaal.

I don’t think it was gratuitous, given the subject matter of the film, I’m just commenting that that’s the last time I can remember seeing a full frontal nude female in an R-rated movie.

She-Hulk differs from Hulk in many respects. She keeps her intelligence and basic personality in both forms. She’s about half again as large in her green form as in her regular one, while Hulk is five or six times as massive as Bruce Banner. And in an early letter column in her first series, the editor informed a salacious fan that after the first couple transformations, Jennifer Walters invested in a couple of stretchy Danskins to wear under her civvies.