# Great diplomat Obama strikes again. "Ignorance and incompetence" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541 "2012-05-30T13:43:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/161 "2012-06-01T04:42:13Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > See, the joke is they both start with P, and Biden is somewhat prone to gaffes. It’s a lot funnier when you know the background. Yeh, but they don’t alliterate phonetically; it’d work better with Pomona or something. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/162 "2012-06-01T05:19:49Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Those words were entirely accurate. My family was killed and everything of theirs stolen by Polish people. They probably never even saw a German. > > Germany has atoned many times over for their sins. Poland still won’t admit their guilt. That shithole is still the most anti-Semitic place in all of Europe. Fuck them and their outrage. I’m neither Jewish nor Polish, but from the wiki Although the Holocaust occurred largely in German occupied Poland there was little collaboration with the Nazis by her citizens. Collaboration by individual Poles has been described as smaller than in other occupied countries.[14][15] Statistics of the Israeli War Crimes Commission indicate that less than 0.1% of Polish gentiles collaborated with the Nazis.[16] Examples of Polish gentile attitudes to German atrocities varied widely, from actively risking death in order to save Jewish lives,[17] and passive refusal to inform on them; to indifference, blackmail,[18] and in extreme cases, participation in pogroms such as the Jedwabne massacre. Grouped by nationality, Poles represent the biggest number of people who rescued Jews during the Holocaust.[19][20] ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/163 "2012-06-01T05:22:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You guys are all missing the brilliance of what Obama did. > > Sure calling it a Polish death camp upsets Poles and will cost him Polish-American votes. But there are only 9,000,000 Americans of Polish ancestry. > > But by calling them Polish death camps, Obama took the Germans off the hook and that’s going to win him German-American votes. And there are 42,800,000 Americans of German ancestry. > > Romney wishes he had thought of this first. Sure he’ll probably try to play catch-up with some awkward statement about how Hitler was misunderstood and how his administration will be full of Kaisers instead of Czars. But Obama won this round. OMG you are right!! I wonder which one of his oriental advisors masterminded this brilliant scheme?!? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/164 "2012-06-01T05:40:58Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > If Obama let Biden deliver the speech, Biden would have confused Poland with Philadelphia!😃 You, of course, would never make such a [simple mistake](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=425009). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/165 "2012-06-01T06:32:40Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > OMG you are right!! I wonder which one of his oriental advisors masterminded this brilliant scheme?!? It was Obama himself. He learned oriental masterminding when he lived in Indonesia. It was an elective course at his school. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/166 "2012-06-01T06:43:24Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > … **Warsaw’s Jewish community also said** it found the Obama’s language “deeply upsetting,” even though it is clear he meant no disrespect. > > “Though it should be obvious he referred to geographical location only, and no slur on Poland was intended, the phrase carries a potential (for) misinterpretation,” it said, adding that it is “injurious to the very values and accomplishments” of the Polish anti-Nazi resistance. > > “We expect President Barack Obama to personally rectify his choice of words,”\*\* the Jewish community added.\*\* (Bolding mine) How many Jews are left in Poland? Did they all get together and recite those quotes? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/167 "2012-06-01T09:57:52Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It was Obama himself. He learned oriental masterminding when he lived in Indonesia. It was an elective course at his school. Oriental Mastermind? Is that like Chinese Checkers? ---
**Author:** ![Baracus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Baracus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baracus)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/168 "2012-06-01T10:18:41Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > (Bolding mine) > > How many Jews are left in Poland? Did they all get together and recite those quotes? I was confused by this as well. It wasn’t the Jewish community with a little “c” that made those statements. It was a press release from an organization called the Jewish Community of Warsaw. Rather sloppy reporting. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/169 "2012-06-01T11:13:34Z")
> [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > Physician, heal thyself. :rolleyes: The rollyeyes… bless your heart. > [@Cosmic Relief](#): > > It’s always a pleasure to hear from a fan, but you’re not really giving me any compelling reason why I should give a shit about you or what you think. You’re ignorant, you’re unfamiliar with the terms of argument you’re using, and you’re profoundly uninteresting. Have a nice life. I tell you what Feel free to put me on ignore if you don’t have the self-control to pass by posts that are ignorant and profoundly uninteresting from posters whom you don’t give a shit about or what they think. Cuz I don’t remember seeking your counsel, asking you a fucking thing or, really even, giving half a percent of a fuck who you are. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/170 "2012-06-01T13:10:32Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Oriental Mastermind? Is that like Chinese Checkers? Nah, it’s just like [regular Mastermind](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/Mastermind?from=Main.Mastermind), only with the Oriental babe in the pic at the link being in charge. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/171 "2012-06-01T14:06:38Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > (Bolding mine) > > How many Jews are left in Poland? At least 10. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/172 "2012-06-01T16:57:25Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > The rollyeyes… bless your heart. > > I tell you what Feel free to put me on ignore if you don’t have the self-control to pass by posts that are ignorant and profoundly uninteresting from posters whom you don’t give a shit about or what they think. Cuz I don’t remember seeking your counsel, asking you a fucking thing or, really even, giving half a percent of a fuck who you are. CAGE MATCH! Only ONE can care the least! Whose indifference will CARRY HIM TO VICTORY? Tune in, or don’t! ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/173 "2012-06-01T17:08:04Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > CAGE MATCH! Only ONE can care the least! Whose indifference will CARRY HIM TO VICTORY? Tune in, or don’t! If I cared enough to show up, would that be considered taking a dive? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/174 "2012-06-01T17:19:58Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > How many Jews are left in Poland? [A few thousand.](http://www.economist.com/node/18237045) And evidently they activated a Spokesman Golem to speak for them as a group. Lucky thing too, as it shows us what a nogoodnik Obama is. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/175 "2012-06-01T18:35:13Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Oriental Mastermind? Is that like Chinese Checkers? It’s on the shelf with [this](http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1124782.jpg) and [this](http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic169028_md.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541/176 "2012-06-01T18:37:09Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > CAGE MATCH! Only ONE can care the least! Whose indifference will CARRY HIM TO VICTORY? Tune in, or don’t! Meh, whatevs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-diplomat-obama-strikes-again-ignorance-and-incompetence/623541.md?page=8)