NOT great news for the Biden campaign!!
Biden: Probably ‘10 to 15 percent’ of Americans ‘are just not very good people’
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Duh. Who could they be talking about?? 
:rolleyes:
For crap’s sake, Joe!! Didn’t you learn anything from Hillary’s “DEPLORABLES” comment??
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Apparently not.
I’ve learned that Hillary was being charitable.
I think we can all agree that 10-15% are “just not very good people.” The problem is we all have a different 10-15% in mind.
Skimming the morning paper, I saw that Jared had been charged with overseeing yet another “hot topic.” Is anyone keeping track of how many hugely challenging and longstanding issues this mediocrity is supposedly in charge of resolving?
Is there lasting peace in the Mideast by now? I must’ve missed the announcement.
Yesterday Biden said in a speech…A president must represent everyone. Not just supporters and donators.
Then he says the above.
Hoping he picks a strong VP.
Cluster B types, avowed tribalists and general assholes probably make up 15% of the country. I’d say Biden was pretty accurate.
Nothing wrong with that at all, it’s totally true. I’d say it more like 25%.
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You left out the irony tags.
If you didn’t meant that ironically, then you have completely missed the point.
dup
What point? that Joe said something absolutely true?
I dont see any problem with it at all. Remember, here is what Hillary said "“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
And you know - that was 100% true also. The difference is- it was specifically aimed at certain people, whilst Joes comment wasnt.
I hope Biden *doesn’t *represent the white supremacist, KKK, and Nazi Americans. The problem is- trump *does. *
Nothing at all wrong with what Biden said.
Holy crap, people. OF COURSE what Biden said was true. And it was true when Hillary said it, too. :smack:
But he needs to get elected.
There are ALL kinds of ways he could have gotten the concept he was expressing across without making Hillary’s mistake (and it was a mistake, even though it was the truth) of INSULTING a whole group of people. We don’t need any more US and THEM. We don’t need any more “there are the good people (us)” and “then there are the rest of you”!
Biden needs the fence-sitters. The ones who are getting disillusioned and disenchanted with trump. He didn’t have to compromise any principles by emphasizing the need for unity, the fact that people are consumed by fear these days, that they need something to hope for and that Democrats can give that to them, blahblahblah-- all of which statements are TRUE, too.
Move divisive talk is not going to get him elected. And he absolutely must be elected or the country is totally fucked.
As noted above, Hillary didn’t say the same thing at all. She said half of Trump’s supporters are deplorable. Biden said one in ten Americans are probably “not very good people”. It’s not just different in substance but in sound bite/slogan use. Can you imagine Trump supporters holding up signs saying “I’m one of the not very good people!”?
(1) It’s not different in substance. It’s insulting to some group of people who are Not Us.
(2) The insulted group doesn’t know the difference between “half” and “one in 10.” Yeah, they’re that dumb.
(3) I CAN definitely imagine a fence-sitter saying, “Who does that Joe Biden think he is calling me ‘bad people’?!? Why didn’t he just come right out and say ‘DEPLORABLE’? That’s what he was thinking! He’s just as bad as Crooked Hillary!”
Hillary specifically called out Republicans. Biden did not.
Well at this point the only person upset about it seems to be ThelmaLou. It’s barely registered a blip anywhere else.
That is the best point that anyone has made.
I told you I was extra sensitive. 
I would be thrilled for it to turn out to be a nothingberder. I want to be wrong on this. I hope no one but me even noticed. The trouble is, every frickin’ thing anyone says is fair game for being quoted out of context down the road when the other side needs barbs and weapons.
I do stand by my statement that Joe would do well not to draw any more “us v. them” lines. INCLUSIVITY is the watchword-- not THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE WHO AREN’T LIKE US. Just avoid that kind of talk. Only leads to tears. And tear gas.