# "Great" Old Movies That Go Sour With Time

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 20, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191 "2003-06-20T15:39:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/61 "2003-06-22T21:42:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zeldar \*  
> \*\*Please change Nas1illmatic to Lizard in my previous post.
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> I picked the wrong one to copy/paste from.  
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Yeah, it didn’t take long for THAT jerk to be expunged. Way to go, Mods! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/62 "2003-06-22T22:33:41Z")

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While it was never a great movie, when I was younger, I loved _Pretty Woman_. I thought it was sooo romantic. Now, I watch it and I’m like, da’hell? Although the red evening gown she wears to the opera and the little black dress are to DIE for.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/63 "2003-06-22T22:46:08Z")

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Speaking of Disney, I remember freaking out watching **Lady and the Tramp** a few years ago. Once you’ve been exposed to a little feminist theory, the “rogue transformed by the love of a good woman” storyline takes on a whole different flavor. 😃

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/64 "2003-06-22T22:46:18Z")

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Yo, Lizard,

Guess you saw how that thing hit while I was getting ready to reply. Can you believe I just scrolled up (not paying attention to what was in the post – since I knew it was yours I had punched the “post reply” for) and swiped the name and came back to what I was saying to you?

The mods were as fast as the interloper and I suppose the name is there to confuse others who read carefully.

I think I have a lesson behind me now in being sure whose post I’m really replying to.

Z

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/65 "2003-06-22T23:19:09Z")

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I rented Double Indemnity recently and was surprised at how resitant I was to its charms. Barbara Stanwyck is wonderful in the film, its Fred MacMurray I have the problem with. Chandler’s dialogue does not age well, what once seemed fresh and tough now seems terribly dated.

I just don’t think MacMurray’s performance is very strong and some of the dialogue pieces about dames and leggy blondes make me laugh at innapropriate places.

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**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/66 "2003-06-23T01:34:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zeldar \*  
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> The mods were as fast as the interloper and I suppose the name is there to confuse others who read carefully.  
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Yeah, one of the things I’ve grown to really love about this Board is how quickly guys like that are banned. The ability to report posts helps, for sure. I think that guy had all of five posts (I reported him to two different Mods, myself) and he was gone.

Hey **Nas1illmatic** , if you’re reading this, _eat shit_ you spamming asshole! Come back and try it again, and we’ll ban you even faster the second time. :wally

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/67 "2003-06-23T04:07:19Z")

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Sorry, **Zeldar** , don’t remember that particular Wayne movie.

But I remember loving the _Green Berets_ as a kid even after my mom pointed out the flub with the sun setting in the east. I can’t look at more than a few minutes now. Between Georgia subbing for “the 'Nam”, the cheapness of the “helicopter” crash, the stilted hoaky dialogue, the false note whimsy around Jim Hutton’s scrounger character and the jarring way he dies, and the whole out of touch propaganda intent of the film. That opening at Fort Benning with the reporters naive questions that play right into every point that Wayne and Co. want to make should be taught in writing and drama classes as how not to write dialogue.

While I still think his work as a director holds up fairly well, the hipster dialogue in Tarantino films does not age well at all and feels like he’s just trying to pad out the script, especially in _True Romance_ and _Reservoir Dogs_. Although my affection for that second film also declined once I saw the films he “borrowed” so much of that film from: _City On Fire, The Killing,_ and _The Taking Of Pelham One, Two, Three_

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-old-movies-that-go-sour-with-time/183191/68 "2003-06-23T04:20:47Z")

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> One I’m kind of betting on is Jurassic Park. Everyone saw this, everyone owns it on video – how many have actually felt like watching it recently?

I’ll back you up on this one. This used to be my absolute favorite movie ever when it was released (I was in 4th grade at the time, mind you). The last time I watched it (around when J3 came out), I thought “geez, _this_ is the movie I went so crazy over?” I like it now about as much as I like most of Spielberg’s work, which isn’t very much.

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