# Great song, then WTF?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 30, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536 "2007-08-30T20:46:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/41 "2007-08-31T16:46:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Spoons]  
It’s almost sacreligious to say it, but the original “Layla.” Great wailing guitar work, screaming lyrics–then a gentle piano lead with a little quiet guitar behind the piano for the remaining three or four minutes. Each part is terrific, but neither seems to belong with the other in the same song.  
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This was the one I was going to chime in with. Heck, I’m a keyboard/piano-player and I can’t stand the tacked-on ending that Just. Does. Not. Stop.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/42 "2007-08-31T17:16:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
(after all, how many songs can make effective use of the word ‘sacroilliac’?)  
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[Two?](http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858627147)

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/43 "2007-08-31T17:24:46Z")

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Hardly a great song but I really enjoy Disturbed’s **Down With the Sickness** until about 3/4ths of the way through there’s this weird part where he’s fighting with his mom or something. WTF? I can’t even tell what they’re going for there. Is it supposed to be funny? Scary? Meaningful? All I know is it’s stupid and annoying and just about ruins the song for me. I had to edit my MP3 so it skips that part to fully enjoy the song.

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**Author:** ![xnylder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbce88/32.png) [@xnylder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xnylder)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/44 "2007-08-31T17:43:24Z")

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[QUOTE=thelurkinghorror]  
[Two?](http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858627147)  
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At least [three](http://www.lyricsdepot.com/maestro-fresh-wes/let-your-backbone-slide.html) .

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**Author:** ![zyzzyva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@zyzzyva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zyzzyva)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/45 "2007-08-31T18:14:54Z")

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[QUOTE=xnylder]  
At least [three](http://www.lyricsdepot.com/maestro-fresh-wes/let-your-backbone-slide.html) .  
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How could you all forget [this one](http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=84483)?

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/46 "2007-08-31T19:12:55Z")

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Ask a silly question, **Gangster Octopus** …

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/47 "2007-08-31T19:25:17Z")

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I forgot there is no such thing as a rhetorical question on the Dope.

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**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/48 "2007-08-31T19:58:12Z")

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My favorite band (evidenced by the fact that they are the only group in existence for whom I have shelled out the funds to buy their every album) is Crowded House. It annoys me to no end, however, that they choose to end one of their finest slow songs (_How Will You Go?_) with some fifteen or 20 seconds of silence, followed by a raucous, shrieking chorus from (I suppose) an entirely different song, and which totally destroys the mood. I’ve left this song off of many a playlist because I can’t stand that last bit, and I’m not savvy enough with sound files to trim it myself.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/49 "2007-08-31T20:15:40Z")

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“Ballroom Blitz” by Sweet. A cool guitar riff, and a verse that is sublime, promising of a big payoff in the bridge or chorus. It then deteriorates into an atonal “They’re Coming to Take Me Away” whine / shriek. I like the song, but as a whole it feels like a real missed opportunity.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/50 "2007-09-01T01:20:24Z")

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Jethro Tull’s “Passion Play”, complex prog rock with lyrics about life and death and other big questions, suddenly segues into “The Story Of The Hare Who Lost His Spectacles”

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/51 "2007-09-01T01:40:18Z")

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I love Whitney Houston’s version of “ **I Will Always Love You** ” until she starts in on the vocal acrobatics. It starts out sweet and humble, like God and Dolly intended it to be, but then she ruins it by belting out the words. “I-hi will always love YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUU!”

Ditto on “ **Hey Jude**.” I bet Paul took 20 years off his throat with all that screeching.

“ **Comfortably Numb** ” by Pink Floyd is another song that I love until it drones on and on and on and on.

Then we have the awesome “ **Pink Houses** ” by John Mellencamp at the Concert for New York City. It starts out with a soulful Mellencamp singing verse 1 and 2. Then that chick who can tear up a fiddle displays her incredible talent for a few minutes. And then, right in time for verse 3…Mellencamp introduces Kid Rock. Kid Rock??? WTF!! And he proceeds to single handedly butcher what was this close to being a freaking masterpiece.

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/52 "2007-09-01T04:47:14Z")

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[QUOTE=dwc1970]  
Guns n’ Roses’ “Paradise City” has a very repetitious ending that could be pared down by a couple minutes.  
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Isn’t that the truth. I just checked it out and that song lasts 6:46. Remind me never to do that in karaoke, even though the chorus is fun.

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**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/53 "2007-09-01T19:25:46Z")

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[QUOTE=zyzzyva]  
How could you all forget [this one](http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=84483)?  
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One more: Parliament’s song _Ride On_ features frequent repetition of the phrase “Shake your sacroiliac”.

Getting back to the OP for a moment, I find the “na na na na na” outro to Journey’s _Lovin’, Touchin’, Squeezin’_ quite annoying. Dream Theater made a good move when they cut the song at that point during their _The Big Medley_.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/54 "2007-09-01T19:38:52Z")

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I really like Erasure’s “Rock Me Gently”, except for the _seven minute_ interlude in the middle that showcases aimless electronic noodling and random shrieks courtesy of Diamanda Galas. What could have been one of their best four minute songs turned into a laborious 11 minute song.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/55 "2007-09-01T20:32:41Z")

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[QUOTE=interface2x]  
I really like Erasure’s “Rock Me Gently”, except for the _seven minute_ interlude in the middle that showcases aimless electronic noodling and random shrieks courtesy of Diamanda Galas. What could have been one of their best four minute songs turned into a laborious 11 minute song.  
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That reminds me of another one for this thread - Erasure’s cover of Abba’s “take a chance on me.” Erasure doing one of the best pop songs ever written should have been a no-brainer, right? Except they decided to put an embarrassing, song-shattering, mood-destroying female ragga rap in the middle of it. Horrible.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/56 "2007-09-01T21:18:10Z")

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Justin Timberlake’s Cry Me A River is a nice fuck you Pop nugget. And then we get to the end with that-- I dunno what the hell he’s doing at the end of that song.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/57 "2007-09-14T15:35:26Z")

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Kanye West’s ‘Stronger’. I mean, it starts out so well, with Daft Punk’s ‘Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger’…and then Kanye comes in. _sighs_

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/58 "2007-09-16T15:48:00Z")

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Daft Punk borrowed most of that song from someone else, so it’s a fair play.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/59 "2007-09-17T19:40:54Z")

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[QUOTE=DJ Motorbike]  
Guns N’ Roses “Sweet Child O’ Mine” I love the tune, but the end just goes on and on. Where do we go now? Where do we go? Where do we go now? Where do we go?

Just end the song, damn it!  
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At least it does _end_ though. I have a pet peeve about songs that just fade out instead of having an actual ending.

-Wore my Guns & Roses t-shirt to the Bella Morte concert this weekend… 😃

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-song-then-wtf/417536/60 "2007-09-17T20:14:38Z")

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So many people seem to be feeling sacreligious in this thread. I’m sure I’ll get jumped on for this, but: Chicago’s “Hard to Say I’m Sorry.” The majority of this board seems to hate slow pop ballads, but I like them, and this was a beautiful one…until suddenly, they start doing that hard rocking thing at the end. As the OP says…WTF?

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