# Great stuff \[regarding the Washington Post and the Mueller investigation\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 29, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280 "2018-11-29T17:20:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/101 "2018-12-01T16:49:12Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> This, of course, being exactly what one does when one is totally not guilty of anything and when the investigation is a witch hunt and there is no evidence of any possible criminal behavior so there’s no reason for anybody to pay any attention to any of it anyway.

Spot on.

> [@BigT](#):
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> I mean, what actually makes something a conspiracy theory is that, when you encounter evidence that proves it wrong, it’s just another part of the conspiracy. That’s how it builds.
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> I think we’re seeing that in real time. Things are looking worse for Trump, so, to maintain the conspiracy, it has to secretly be good for Trump.

Well, there is legitimate good for Trump, but mostly it is as you say - it’s conspiracy mongering.

> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> Mueller and his team of Clinton donors are most likely going to release a report that is damaging to Trump politically, not criminally as it pertains to Russia collusion. There is just nothing there. Now money laundering or other financial process crime? That is a different story which has been the goal of this sham Russia cover story the whole time.

So you’re saying that colluding with Russia during the campaign and afterwards is not illegal, there are no illegal acts involved?

And you’re saying the investigation is actually been looking for financial crime, but used the Russian collusion angle as a cover story? And you seem to imply there is financial crime to be found.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/102 "2018-12-01T16:49:28Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> People who tell the truth don’t worry about perjury traps.

“If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.”  
-Mark Twain (attributed)

Given that any two sentences by Trump are likely to contain five falsehoods, the only “trap” is getting him to say anything under oath.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/103 "2018-12-01T17:06:00Z")

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> [@Chip\_Dundas](#):
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> Clinton Foundation donations were down $100 million in 2017.
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> I wonder why that is?

Because the election was over, and she wasn’t campaigning anymore?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/104 "2018-12-01T17:18:23Z")

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At least after this OP I won’t be the only person who reads that name as **Chip Dumbass**.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/105 "2018-12-01T17:46:02Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Notably, the popularization of “cocaine Mitch”came from a psychotic right wing coal mine owner who should justly be in prison for murdering his employees.

In fairness to the psychotic right wing coal mine owner, “Cocaine Mitch” never _really_ got all that popular.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/106 "2018-12-01T18:15:43Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> In fairness to the psychotic right wing coal mine owner, “Cocaine Mitch” never _really_ got all that popular.

I hadn’t been familiar with this particular claim, but the Washington Post gives the whole thing a rating of [Four Pinocchios.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/04/the-kooky-tale-of-cocaine-mitch/?utm_term=.43fb0a8f9544)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/107 "2018-12-01T18:17:56Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> In fairness to the psychotic right wing coal mine owner, “Cocaine Mitch” never _really_ got all that popular.

I hadn’t been familiar with this particular claim, but the Washington Post gives the whole thing a rating of [Four Pinocchios.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/04/the-kooky-tale-of-cocaine-mitch/?utm_term=.43fb0a8f9544) In other words, just the kind of thing that **Chippie** will believe in a hearbeat.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/108 "2018-12-01T18:53:53Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What proof do you have of your assertions, and how did you get that proof?

[That fucker Tucker.](https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-tweets-tucker-carlson-obama/2018/08/29/id/879251/)

[This is how conservative media transformed a small news item into a full-blown conspiracy theory that the president (apparently) believes to be true.](https://www.gq.com/story/spygate-conspiracy-theory-explained)

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/109 "2018-12-01T18:54:50Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I bet you do, Will. I can definitely believe that “a fucking incoherent idiot” is something you see a lot. In fact there’s a polite version of it in that idiotic ATMB thread you just started in which you got properly smacked down when you complained about being thread banned.
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> The original title of the rant, before a mod fixed the title, was “Great stuff”, which was a perfect introduction to what many have noted is an equally cryptic and incoherent rant. The rant also had the added bonus of really peculiar orthography. It was clearly the work of a moron, so your affinity for it is understandable. But it really is incoherent. Mostly what I get out of it is that Rudy Giuliani (which he manages to misspell) and Trump = Good, Mueller and the Washington Post = Bad. Also, the Washington Post published something or other, which makes the OP mad. Apparently Trump is playing four-dimensional chess again and has everyone and everything firmly in control, as always. All in all, it’s the kind of incoherent drivel that you might have written yourself, which might have earned you moderator instructions to cease posting in the thread, just like last time.
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> I don’t think you understand what the word “impetus” means, and “homo sapiens” is not a plural that can be made singular by dropping the “s”. “Sapiens” is the present participle of the Latin “sapere”. You are a fucking illiterate moron as well as a fucking incoherent idiot, but you knew that. Also a predictable troll.

U tri hard

No hert

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/110 "2018-12-01T19:00:44Z")

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Well, yes.

**WillFarnaby** speaks moron too! 😛

Just like Giuliani.

> **[Is Rudy Giuliani a Witness to Obstruction? | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/how-rudy-giulianis-latest-blabbermouth-session-may-have-turned-him-into-a-witness-to-obstruction/)**
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> President Donald Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani has been pretty forthcoming about the fact that he and Paul Manafort's attorneys have discussed how cooperation has been going with special counsel Robert Mueller.

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> How Rudy Giuliani’s Latest Blabbermouth Session May Have Turned Him into a Witness to Obstruction

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/111 "2018-12-01T22:06:50Z")

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I am particularly interested in Chip’s mastery of the Stock Market. Any solid predictions you’d like to make about the coming weeks?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/112 "2018-12-01T22:12:47Z")

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**Chimp** isn’t in the market because Charles Schwab doesn’t deal in rubles.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/113 "2018-12-01T22:37:00Z")

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My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-stuff-regarding-the-washington-post-and-the-mueller-investigation/825280/114 "2018-12-02T17:34:46Z")

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Fun fact: “shoveling coal” is a euphemism for snorting a lot of cocaine.

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